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Article

Besides the errors in this article which need to be reviewed very thoroughly, the article name itself is very wrong. Calling whatever this thing was the "First Armenian Republic" is a gross exaggeration and is simply not true. More importantly, the name "First Armenian Republic" is used UNIVERSALLY to refer to the Armenian Republic of 1918-1920, followed by the Second Armenian Republic which was the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic, followed by today's third republic (1991-present). --RaffiKojian 10:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article really needs to be renamed.--Eupator 14:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just call it Wilsonian Armenia? -- Clevelander 00:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Administration for Western Armenia was the only one that is really existed and known.--OttomanReference 16:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are just so many things wrong with this article, I think even original research. The fact that there is a mention of 60 something thousand Armenians in Van is untrue as 55,000 alone were killed and bodies buried after Van resistance and 45,000 survivors counted in the city itself. Quite an innacurate number. Also, where is this flag coming from? I read books and could not find anything on it. This makes it sound more like a real government than haphazard provincial administration. The russian empire curbed nationalism, even Armenian on this front. A lot of what this article says stinks to say in the least, I just pointed out 2 obvious flaws.--Hetoum I 03:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I have assessed this article as "Stub-class" in light of its dire need of copy-editing for grammar and style. It may be long enough, and dense enough in data to make it B-class, but until that data is properly organized into useful information, I do not believe that this warrants anything higher than Start-class. There also appears to be some sort of neutrality dispute. LordAmeth 10:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Western Armenia

Present Turkey .Not armenia.Present Flag is Turkish flag.Not armenian flag.--85.100.42.44 (talk) 19:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC) Արևմտյան Հայաստան Administration for Western Armenia Provisional government Ottoman flag← 1915–1918 →Turkish flag --85.100.42.44 (talk) 19:43, 4 November 2009 (UTC) Provinces of Turkey--85.100.42.44 (talk) 19:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flag

The flag shown for this entity is the Russian flag. The area was occupied by Russian forces but was administered by Armenians. Yet, the infobox gives the impression that the flag is that of the Administration itself, and the slight difference in tone in the blue even made me wonder whether it was a distinct flag that just happened to look like the Russian flag (perhaps out of solidarity with Russia?). However, this Web site [1] clearly uses the Russian colors. More information should be given in the infobox to avoid this confusion. --İnfoCan (talk) 19:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added the caption "Russian Flag" below the flag's image. --İnfoCan (talk) 19:52, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Title

I am renaming this article to "Occupation of Turkish Armenia"

see Google Books results. It includes uses by Richard Hovannisian, The New Armenia, Ronald Grigor Suny, Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine, etc

"Republic of Van" was only used by Armenians, while "Occupation of Y" is a common term in historiography: Occupation of Constantinople, Occupation of the Ruhr, Occupation of Poland (1939–45), Occupation of Smyrna, Occupation of the Baltic states, etc. --Երևանցի ^talk 01:30, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article coordinates

What are the associated coordinates with this article about? They lead to a spot in the middle of the Atlantic. Okänd (talk) 18:40, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]