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Oklahoma is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.

This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on November 16, 2007.

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Date	Process	Result
August 25, 2007	Featured article candidate	Promoted
November 8, 2020	Featured article review	Demoted

Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on November 16, 2009, and November 16, 2010.

Current status: Former featured article

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Topography	5,926	5,926
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Agriculture	1,051	1,051
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The meaning of the word Oklahoma

There appears to be some revisionism going on with this. I’ve never heard or read anywhere this Honored People defintion of the Oklahoma.

To back up this point this is a link to a Choctaw Nation owned website.

“The first Choctaw name that we must mention is "Oklahoma" itself. Following the Civil War, delegates from the 5 Civilized Tribes traveled to Washington D.C. to resume formal relationships with the US government. During the meeting, federal officials proposed the creation of an Indian Territory. Choctaw delegate Rev. Allen Wright suggested naming it "Oklahumma" (Meserve 1941:319). In the Choctaw language "okla" means "people" and "humma" means "red". Thus, the area would be named Oklahoma Territory, or literally "Territory of the Red People". Today "The State of Oklahoma" literally means "The state belonging to Red People".”

https://choctawschool.com/home-side-menu/history/choctaw-place-names-in-oklahumma.aspx

The Wayback Machine has that page being up and those words on it since October 17 2012.

http://web.archive.org/web/20121017080821/https://choctawschool.com/home-side-menu/history/choctaw-place-names-in-oklahumma.aspx

Not sure why the definition of the word has suddenly been changed other than to fit someone’e false narrative the Choctaw never referred to themselves as the Red People. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.42.226 (talk) 02:51, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 05:37, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Give it its own page about its culture

It's big enough to have its own article imo Jarapod (talk) 05:44, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images screwed up

There are a bunch of images that are clearly meant to be in the history section, but have been pushed down into the following section because of the (uber-long) infobox about state symbols. This is undesireable, particularly as some of the maps are really important to understand what the history section is talking about. Solutions: (1) Delete the state symbols cruft-box (probably a no-go); (2) remove some of the history images and shunt the rest to the left side of the page (tends to create a bit of a WP:SANDWICH). What do others think? Furius (talk) 09:27, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Research Seminar in Digital and Public History

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 January 2023 and 8 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): PHKJIU (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by PHKJIU (talk) 17:41, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 June 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved - WP:SNOW oppose for the move, there does not seem to be a chance this will ever succeed. (non-admin closure) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:08, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oklahoma → Oklahoma (state) – Per WP:CONSISTENT. Conforms with New York (state). The current title can be ambiguous with Oklahoma City, as is with "New York State" and "New York City". Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 12:21, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, it appears most state articles don't have the disambiguator of (state). Also, "City" is a WP:NATURALDISAMBIG here. "New York (state)" is most likely at its current title because another name for NYC can just be "New York". ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 12:41, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - is Oklahoma City commonly referred to as just "Oklahoma"? Even if so, I would guess that that is not nearly as commonly used as "New York" is when referring to NYC. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 14:09, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, I don't see any confusion here. Kansas is not Kansas (state), just because there's a Kansas City. With regard to New York I believe the state should have precedence over the city and the correct title should be New York for the state and New York City for the city. Smallchief (talk) 14:12, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per User:Tim O'Doherty. 162 etc. (talk) 15:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose unlike "New York" the city's official and common name includes "City" per the AP style book. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeThe current title isn't ambiguous with Oklahoma City as no one in Oklahoma calls Oklahoma City just Oklahoma. This isn't New York where everyone calls New York City just New York.--Dcheagle • talk • contribs 05:06, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per above. estar8806 (talk) ★ 15:25, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose (what is the average snowfall in Oklahoma?) Randy Kryn (talk) 15:39, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.