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The table on this page is generated by database[edit]

The table on this page and the contents of any nuclear tests infobox are generated from a database of nuclear testing which I have maintained and researched for a number of years. The table is automatically generated from that database by a Visual Basic script, and then has, periodically, been inserted into the page manually. I began doing this in October of 2013.

Recently a user complained (politely) to me about the practice. It seems to him that it removes control from all editors besides myself over the content. He believes it is tantamount to WP:OWNED of the pages affected. He also points out that there is no public mention of the fact anywhere on wikipedia, and that is true, through my own oversight, until now.

There was no intent that the pages affected should be owned by myself; in fact, one of my reasons for building these pages was to solicit (in the wikipedia way) criticism and corrections to the data, perhaps additional references that I had been unable to locate. I have regenerated the tables twice in the days since they were originally placed. Each time I did so, I performed a diff between the current version and the version that I put up in the previous cycle; all corrections were then either entered into the database or corrected in the programming, as appropriate. As may be guessed, the programming corrections were frequent to start out as suggestions about the table formatting were raised, and most incorporated. I have not made judgements on the "usefulness" of corrections; all have been incorporated, or I have communicated directly with the editor to settle the matter. In fact it was in pursuing such a correction that this matter came up.

I am posting this comment on the Talk page of every page containing content which is so generated. If you would like to comment on this matter, please go to the copy on Talk:List of nuclear tests so the discussion can be kept together. I will also be placing a maintained template on each Talk page (if anyone would like also to be named as a maintainer on one or all pages, you are welcome). I solicit all comments and suggestions.

SkoreKeep (talk) 02:32, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Daylight time[edit]

@SkoreKeep: you mentioned above that the table is generated by computer code. Does it take daylight time into account properly? I ask because many of the local times are likely to incorrectly be reckoned as PST (GMT-8). - Brianhe (talk) 20:41, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure whether that's the case or not. It probably doesn't because it was so difficult to determine the standard time conversions as it was, until I stumbled across the database that I used. I'll look into whether the database supports it. It will be a while, though, as I don't have regular internet access now. Thanks for the question. SkoreKeep (talk) 23:27, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Title picture[edit]

The title picture seems to have contradicting origins Operation Tumbler–Snapper#/media/File:Tumbler Snapper rope tricks.jpg

The source https://www.radiochemistry.org/history/nuke_tests/tumbler_snapper/ suggests that the picture is of a test from Operation Tumbler–Snapper, however the source (DOENV 715) of this file https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Plumbbob_Boltzmann_003.jpg attributes the picture to the Boltzmann test from operation Plumbbob. This second source seems more trustworthy so the title picture should probably be changed. Iluvendan (talk) 18:02, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]