Talk:Orchiectomy

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 June 2021 and 27 August 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): K. Morioka, Gtchapanian, Kjaguilar, J.Miranda, Future UCSF Pharm.D..

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 29 June 2020 and 21 August 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): J.Wong, UCSF Future Pharm.D., K.BehzadMoghadam, R. Chu, Future UCSF Pharm.D., MCheng14.

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Increase of estrogen

Either a reference needed here or a qualification, since testosterone is needed for the production of estrogen. An effect of orchiectomy is osteoporosis and it is considered good practice to prescribe hormone supplementation, specifically 17ẞ estradiol, for life postoperativelyChevin (talk) 13:56, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Whoever put that there misinterpreted data from studies about people with unilateral testicular cancer. The cancer, not the orchiectomy, causes increased estrogen and decreased testosterone. Treating the cancer by removing the testicle restores normal hormone levels. See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5384966/ for clinical data. 李艾连 (talk) 02:44, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

I am writing about total bilateral orchiectomy Chevin (talk) 10:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Proposed edits for UCSF SOP Foundations II Summer 2021:

Verify existing references
Add references for unsupported statements
Add new section: benefits (including e.g. cancer remission?)
Edit language to clarify vague statements (e.g. “various tissues… various sutures”)
Replace "patient" with more inclusive language
Elaborate on HRT given after orchiectomy
K. Morioka (talk) 22:05, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Add a Risks/Complications section, and possibly a History or Trends section.
J.Miranda, Future UCSF Pharm.D. (talk) 15:50, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Peer Review

Overall, this article was well written and very informative. They had a clear structure and balanced coverage on the many different ways to conduct an orchiectomy as well as the different indications for having this procedure done. I do believe that some of the language was difficult to understand and contained medical jargon that could be improved, however I do recognize that this could be complicated since this is a complex procedure. For example, in the lead section I would recommend using different language than the words "testicular torsion" and "atrophy" so that this article can be inclusive to everyone. I believe the group reached their goals in making sure their information was verified and credited with the reliable sources that were cited. They mentioned adding a benefits section, but it seems that their "Effects" section in the article was used instead and I believe this is a better way to portray the risks & benefits of performing an Orchiectomy. JosephineNgo (talk) 21:25, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

To address more specifically about whether the language supports diversity, equity, and inclusion I would say overall the group has met their goal. In particular, they added information about the specific indication for performing this surgery for the trans women population. This supports and informs others about different indications outside of the more traditional ones such as prostate cancer. As mentioned before, there are some areas where the language could be improved upon, especially in the lead, which is the area I believe is the most important to simplify for the understanding of general readers. Further along in the article, the group did a great job of hyperlinking medical jargon to the respective wikipedia articles to define those words for the general reader. They've also done well in rewording and not using the word patient anywhere in the article JosephineNgo (talk) 21:12, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

The group greatly improved this article in many different ways. They added several headings, such as subcapsular orchiectomy and inguinal orchiectomy, to the original article to make a clearer structure. They also added the section that was mentioned in the lead section, but not covered in the body, contributing to the balanced coverage of this article. However, I noticed that the lead section does not reflect their changes and the group would be able to further improve the article by adding a brief summary about newly added contents including pre, postoperative care, and psychosocial effects. J. Ahn, student (talk) 21:47, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

The format of this group's edits followed Wikipedia's manual of style well. It was written in the third person and did not convey the nuance of recommendation. This article also employs many Wiki links, which is recommended for Wikipedia articles about medical topics. However, I noticed that much medical jargon was used in this article, and using plain English would improve this article. Finally, including some additional recommended sections for medical articles including contraindication, recovery, and complications would increase the quality of this article. J. Ahn, student (talk) 21:59, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

This article was very well written and very informative. The group did a great job on separating out the sections and presenting the information in an organized and easy to find way. The information was easy to digest for the most part but there was still a decent amount of medical jargon in the article that could have been simplified a bit more. It was nice that a section for both physical and psychological effects of the surgery was added. The leading section was clear and summed up what Orchiectomy was and the multiple reasons for the procedure. There was medical jargon like "atrophy" that could have been explained but overall great edits. For the proposed edits, they wanted to elaborate more on HRT given after orchiectomy and they did elaborate on it very well and the different types of HRT and what is continued or discontinued per physician discretion. They also clarified some vague language and clarified with supporting sources. Jwang3123 (talk) 21:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Most of their sources were great and were secondary review sources or came from medical textbooks and reliable pre operative instructions. There was one specific reference, their #2 reference that is a link to Medical Dictionary of Health Terms and it was a Harvard website. This source is not a secondary source and was confusing when i went on the website since i did not know what they were referencing or what part of the website they used as a reference. A different source could have been used to describe the same thing they used this current source for. Jwang3123 (talk) 22:09, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

The group definitely Improved organization of the article by adding sections for each type of orchiectomy and adding 56 references. History of orchiectomies and information on the procedure in dogs also added to the breadth of the article topic. Adding pre- and post-operative sections also gave a more complete picture of the procedure that the article covers. While “patient” has successfully been changed to “individual, person, etc.” throughout the article, it would be beneficial to either link to another wikipedia article when using medical jargon, or to give a brief laymen’s explanation in place of jargon. For example, unilateral, bilateral, saline, TFCT, androgen, and estrogen. Overall, the group has succeeded in achieving their goals of addressing HRT, benefits of the procedure, and clarifying vague statements. The article has a neutral tone, as the article references gender-affirming surgeries without judgment or politicizing individuals’ decisions to get the procedure.Jpobre (talk) 21:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Checking References

K. Morioka reviewed references 1-8 and found 0 predatory sources and 0 duplications. 1 encyclopedia reference was archived and cited as such.
Kjaguilar reviewed references 9-16 and found 0 predatory sources and 1 duplication (12 and 14). the duplication was consolidated into one reference (now ref 12) and additionally, 9 and 10 were removed as invalid sources.
J.Miranda, Future UCSF Pharm.D. reviewed references 17-24 and found 0 predatory sources and 0 duplications. 2 references were removed, 17 (difficult to access) and 24 (invalid source).
K. Morioka (talk) 21:31, 4 August 2021 (UTC) The systematic review "Antiandrogen or estradiol treatment or both during hormone therapy in transitioning transgender women" by Haupt et al is not a valid source for the paragraph about Orchiectomie being a replacement for antiandrogens and contributing to feminizing features. The review is solely an examination of evidence regarding the benefits of antiandrogens in mtf transition. The reference should be removed from this particular context. 2003:D7:FF2E:F800:1990:E747:DBF8:9DA3 (talk) 17:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Add references of compulsory orchiectomy laws

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65958119 Japan (and other countries) sterilized thousands of people perceived as "inferior" in an intent to avoid their reproduction. ChesterGC (talk) 22:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Update WPATH Standards of Care section to use SOC 8

As of the SOC 8, the requirement for referral letters has been reduced from two letters by independent mental health professionals (SOC 7, p. 27) to one letter by a healthcare professional who is "competent to independently assess and diagnose" (SOC 8, Statement 5.5). I believe this journal article is a WP:MEDRS for this (see § "Standards of care version 8", ¶4), but would rather leave the actual edit, assuming it is warranted at this time, to someone more versed in editing medical articles, as well as editing in general.

Thank you,
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