Talk:Our Lady of the Rosary

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Merge with Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary[edit]

These are small articles repeating the same info. They are just floating out there, best to merge - no big deal anyway. History2007 (talk) 18:57, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Cambalachero (talk) 18:51, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks History2007 (talk) 19:05, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Amount of Information[edit]

This does not have much information. There should be more added to it. Myvery 16:29, 29 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myveryownroblox (talk • contribs)

Our Lady of the Rosary or Victories[edit]

This article needs work and I'm not in a location with appropriate resources. There's an obvious confusion between the two, and the papal dates clearly seem mixed. Frankly, I think some of the Spanish dedications relate to the Reconquista, and some of those in the New World to the Dominican order. While the popes were grateful for help against the Cathars in the 13th century, and victories near the old feasts celebrate Mary's birth as well as her assumption, those probably didn't seem very important by the 18th century. Jweaver28 (talk) 18:20, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Our Lady of Rosy Victory[edit]

Well that isn't a thing and this isn't an article about October 7th. These should clearly be WP:FORKED back into separate treatments of completely different topics.

There's also the issue that

#Our Lady of Victory
In 1571, Pope Pius V organized a c...

is obviously wrong since Our Lady of Victory had been a thing sinc...

#Feast day
Pius V instituted the feast of Our Lady of Victory in order to commemorate the victory at Lepanto, which he attributed to the Blessed Virgin Mary. Dedications to Our Lady of Victory had preceded this papal declara...

well... ok...

Here's the thing. The treatment of #Our Lady of Victory includes a lot of stuff before Lepanto and the introduction of the topic should introduce the whole topic, not the last part of it. The treatment of the #Feast should only be about Lepanto since that's what set off the feast. Any idea why these are currently completely backwards? Something to do with the other mistakes involved with the merge? — LlywelynII 11:38, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Victory for you, Victory for me...[edit]

In other news, there should be a chart of the different known uses by location and date if—as seems to be true—this name doesn't refer to any one event or legend but to repeated victories later credited to the Virgin. There's the Battle of Muret (1213), Bouvines (1214), Lepanto (1571)... Any others? Seems like at least one other one was responsible for the Minim convent in Seville that gave Elcano's ship Victoria its name in 1518 or 1519. Also, are we 100% sure that the very first use was with the Cathar 'crusade'? If so, was the name essentially a way of rubbing Cathars' defeat in their faces based on some theological issues that wanted to diminish the Virgin's importance? — LlywelynII 13:28, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm totally baffled by this article. You seem to have an understanding of the issues, so please do take a sledgehammer to it and rewrite (if you want to). Furius (talk) 22:39, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]