Talk:Pōkarekare Ana

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Korean[edit]

No offense, but what is the Korean translation doing on the English wiki page? Akerbeltz (talk) 12:21, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wondered the same, but this seems more relevant if you consider the entry elsewhere in the article: "New Zealand soldiers taught it to Korean children during the Korean War (etc., etc.)" Neiljt (talk) 13:00, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, I guess so... I'll move the comment to the same section though... and perhaps request some input on whether it's translation, transliteration or worse. Akerbeltz (talk) 14:08, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The copyright issue on translations of a Public Domain work is a bit muddy. If the original work is copyrighted, then original copyright holder retains rights to all translations which are considered derivative works. However, there are some rights passed to the translator if their derivative work is determined to add creative value. In the case of the Korean translation, the copyright is uncertain and would require more investigation -- and in cases like these on Wikipedia, prudence should be exercised and the text deleted. More importantly, there appears to be no valid reason for a block of Korean text in this article -- especially considering the lyrics are already presented in English. I have deleted the text. — CactusWriter | ^needles 17:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Translation[edit]

The translation presented in the article differs from the one in the booklet of Pure (Hayley Westenra album).

Here is the translation of the first verse and chorus according to the latter:

Stormy are the waters

Of restless Waiapu

If you cross them, girl

They will be calmed

Oh girl

Come back to me

I could die

Of love for you

The chorus and first half of the verse arguably mean more or less the same in either case. But the second half of the verse is very different.

Any Maori speakers out there who can enlighten on which is the more accurate or literal translation?

And why does the chorus, despite being the same each time, according to this article have a different translation the final time from the rest? -- Smjg (talk) 23:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I speak enough Maori to be able to tell you that the one Hayley uses is "artistic", to use a polite term. Akerbeltz (talk) 08:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there evidence that Hayley herself wrote the translation? (It appears only in the booklet - she actually sings only the Maori.) -- Smjg (talk) 11:11, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why are we debating HW's version? The current Maori version plus the translation are from a different, more credible source. Akerbeltz (talk) 12:52, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unofficial national anthem?[edit]

I would question the claim that it is "sometimes called the country's unofficial national anthem". I have never heard that said, and I am a New Zealander.203.184.41.226 (talk) 01:58, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Margaret Urlich[edit]

Margaret's version appeared on The Great NZ Songbook compilation CDs. Doesn't she deserve a mention here? Haryadoon1 (talk) 08:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's no Wikipedia article for that album by Margaret Urlich. Are there reviews, sources? Did it chart? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:58, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]