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The sections "Initial development as an IRBM", "Launch Pad", and "First Launches" are based on the chapter "Delta: The Ultimate Thor" by Kevin S. Forsyth (2002), in Roger Launius and Dennis Jenkins (Eds.) To Reach The High Frontier: A History of U.S. Launch Vehicles; Lexington: University Press of Kentucky.

In particular, "Initial development" is a very thinly-reworded cribbing of said chapter. Its structure and, in several lines, direct quoting of the source without attribution, cross the line into copyright infringement. If the writer had properly credited the source material I might have let it slide without complaint, but as written it is in serious need of an overhaul. Kevin Forsyth 15:42, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Title Change

I think the title should be "Thor IRBM" instead. Like Jupiter IRBM. WikiY 00:15, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

To whomever, I have been blessed with a wonderful father who.... as was National Security policy would not discuss his involvement with the PGM-17 program in great detail. Now that much of the veil has been lifted he is feeling somewhat more free to discuss particulars. You mentioned that there are some details that you are unclear about.

My father --- Douglas Aircraft PGM-17 Program, Flight Dyanamics, Telemetry nad Data Reduction primarily out of Vandenberg.

What to update your info? I'll ask him for you.

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Need photo of missile

Could someone find a photo of an actual Thor missile to use in this article? All the photos are of Thors used as satellite launch vehicles. Sdsds 07:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IRBM vs MRBM

It seems that we've been having problems recently with people changing "IRBM" to "MRBM". Whilst it is true to say that the two terms are virtually synonimous, IRBM is the official term, and thus should be used. It is also the most commonly used term with regard to the Thor: Google results for "Thor IRBM" - 586. Google results for "Thor MRBM" - 1. I have reverted to the correct version (IRBM), and if anyone has a problem with this, please discuss it here. If the problem persists, I may seek semi-protection, as most of the changes to the incorrect terminology are being conducted by anonymous users. --GW_Simulations_{User Page | Talk} 07:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An MRBM was something like the Sergeant, Pershing, Pershing II, Polaris, Poseidon, and SS-22 -- clearly a step below the Thor, Jupiter, and Juno IRBMs. Does it take an engineer or an Air Force missile officer to figure this out? "Short range", "medium range", "intermediate range", "intercontinental range" -- it forms a logical progression in terminology. Short range: WAC Corporal, Corporal, Honest John, Little John, Lance, SRAM, SLAM. Extremely short range "Davy Crocket", a suicide weapon.47.215.180.7 (talk) 04:58, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

According to the operational range definition, an MRBM is a ballistic missile with a range of 1000-3500 km, thus by this definition Thor is is an MRBM instead of an IRBM which by range definition is 3500-5500 km. To me, despite the Thor missile commonly being refereed to as an IRBM, it's operation range places it clearly in the range of an MRBM. There is a lot of inconsistency between defined ranges of missile and how they are categorized on Wikipedia. If the definition of ballistic missile ranges is set by international definition, then Wikipedia should rank articles on ballistic missiles by the internationally recognized definitions even though the missile may be commonly referred to something else otherwise. I have also seen frequently the Jupiter missile being referred to as an IRBM despite it's range clearly placing it within MRBM range, although in this case the Wikipedia article properly places this missile in the correct category. Stormchaser89 (talk) 19:40, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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