Talk:Padarn

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Frankly, I think seven footnotes in such a brief article is perfectly sufficient. We can't run about in dismay every time some joker posts a "more references" tag. --Wetman (talk) 10:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the number of sections gave the false impression that the article was longer? Pehaps some of them need to be merged? And where is Letia? Srnec (talk) 21:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How's that, Srnec? A redirect to Armorica: it's the same region. Perhaps occurences of Letia should be collected and worked into a short section at Armorica. Or am I being dense and missing something? --Wetman (talk) 01:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's I who's missing something (namely footnote 6). If there is a significance to the use of "Letia" in preference to "Armorica" then a short section at the latter may be useful. Was it an archaism even in the Dark Ages? Dark Age authors love their archaisms... (And it looks like some information at Litavis could belong at Armorica also.) Srnec (talk) 05:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The names Padarn (Llanbadarn) and Patern are sufficiently different to confuse the non-Welsh speaking neophyte. Please emphasize the differences when merging an obvious 'doublet'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garhowell (talk • contribs) 17:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested merger[edit]

Object: These are two different people. Walgamanus (talk) 20:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Object: These are two different people. ~Geaugagrrl^talk 04:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and merged the articles. Nothing in either article indicated that they were different people; they contained much the same information, and the Patern article was sourced only the the Life of Padarn! If anyone wants to separate them back again the "other" Paternus will need significantly more work.--Cúchullain ^t/c 13:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a little more complicated. The fact that the details are often the same is probably because of very early confusion. I suspect that Padarn of Ceredigion and Paternus of Vannes are different people. The controversy should be directly addressed in the article. When re-writing and expanding the article on St Padarn's Church, Llanbadarn Fawr, I referred to the problem but didn't go into it, as it wasn't relevant for that account. IncidentaLLY, curate at St Padarn's church, and an historian, I'm interested in any information anyone might come across.Ncox (talk) 19:17, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Padarn/Paternus[edit]

Regarding this article and Paternus, please see Category_talk:Saints_articles_needing_attention#Padarn_and_Paternus. Carminowe of Hendra (talk) 20:52, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]