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Poor first sentence[edit]

It doesn't "refer to" the throwing of stones; it is the throwing of stones. csw99 14:00, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let me construe that for you. The title is the subject and thus 'refers to' the throwing of stones. Titles do not throw stones, people do.Nishidani (talk) 20:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"The state of Israel considers the act to be criminal"[edit]

Of course it does. Every single country in the world considers stoning to be a crime, irregardless of if the target is human or property. This fact is not notable and should be removed. Dieknon (talk) 13:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blatantly False Sentence in First Paragraph[edit]

In the first paragraph of the entry, it states "The majority of Palestinian youths engaged in the practice appear to regard it as symbolic and non-violent, given the disparity in power and equipment between the Israeli forces and the Palestinian stone-throwers". (emphasis added). This statement is not supported by the source article. In fact, the article says the opposite. It states "Some Palestinians, in contrast, see stone throwing as a symbolic act of resistance, practically nonviolent due to the disparity in force..."

It is false to claim that the majority of Palestinian youths feel a certain way when the article clearly states only "some" feel this way. If not deleted, at minimum, the sentence should be changed to read "Some Palestinian youths engaged in the practice appear to regard...." Apndrew (talk) 23:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fix false sentence in first paragraph.[edit]

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What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}): The sentence in the first paragraph beginning "The majority of Palestinian youths engaged in the practice appear to regard it as symbolic and non-violent, given the disparity in power and equipment between the Israeli forces and the Palestinian stone-throwers" should be changed to "Some Palestinian youths engaged in the practice appear to regard it as symbolic and non-violent, given the disparity in power and equipment between the Israeli forces and the Palestinian stone-throwers"

Why it should be changed:

This statement is not supported by the source article. In fact, the source article says the opposite. It states "Some Palestinians, in contrast, see stone throwing as a symbolic act of resistance, practically nonviolent due to the disparity in force..." To claim that a "majority" of Palestinians feel a certain way is blatantly false when the article only says "some" Palestinians feel that way.

References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

The source itself: Maia Carter Hallward, Transnational Activism and the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, Palgrave Macmillan 2013 p.50 ^[1]

Apndrew (talk) 23:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done I changed majority to some and also removed the parts about youths engaged in the practice and seeing it as a method of deterrence, as none of this was mentioned in the source. Jamedeus (talk) 00:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):In the first paragraph, the sentence "The state of Israel considers has passed laws to sentence throwers convicted of the charge to up to 10 years imprisonment even without proof of intent to harm." should be changed to "The state of Israel has passed laws to sentence throwers who endanger the safety of someone inside a vehicle to up to 10 years imprisonment."
Why it should be changed: The source publication doesn't support the original statement at all.

References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): Ruth Linn, Conscience at War: The Israeli Soldier as a Moral Critic ^[2]

Apndrew (talk) 23:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

Not done: I found a citation confirming the existing claim in the Israeli law section. I replaced the citation in the lead since it was not relevant to this claim. Jamedeus (talk) 00:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://books.google.com/books?id=JzawAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA50#v=onepage&q&f=false

[2] ttps://books.google.com/books?id=tG2n5oUhxaUC&pg=PA62#v=onepage&q&f=false

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