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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 23:40, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Tails Wx (talk). Self-nominated at 15:54, 13 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Paul Pavelka; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.
Overall: All looks good! Nice work on the article. I prefer ALT0 but I'd be happy with either, although I think ALT1 would need to specify that it's the Salonika front of World War I. Grnrchst (talk) 12:46, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]


GA Review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:Paul Pavelka/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 04:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Oh hey, you brought this to GAN! I'll try to review this next few days. Generalissima (talk) 04:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So sorry for delaying on this :( I complete got sidetracked.


Criterion #1: Well-written

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Lede is good, though you should briefly mention where and how he died.

I think early life would flow better if you mention his parents names in the first sentence (eg; Hungarian immigrants, Paul and Anna Pavelka). This way you can avoid naming his father in the last sentence of this paragraph, which would make it a lot clearer. Rest of section seems good.

World War I section seems good.

Criterion #2: Verifiable

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I checked a couple sources.

  • Nordhoff, p. 379
    • Source confirms all four times you use it.
  • The Champaign Daily News 1915, p. 6.
    • Source checks out (though please replace this with a clipping so people don't need a subscription.)
  • The Washington Times 1915, p. 5
    • Checks out, but ditto.
  • The Parsons Daily Sun 1916, p. 4
    • Ditto.
  • The Atlanta Constitution 1917.
    • Ditto.

Criterion #3: Broadness

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This is the one I'm a little unsure on. The article feels a bit "dense", and I think you can still milk your sources quite a bit. If there's any way you can add detail to his early life, that'd be great, cause right now he's just jumping from place to place with no detail of what he's doing there (especially that Andes expedition, that shipwreck, and his... army service on the USS Maryland? That's either a typo or really interesting!)

Criterion #4: Neutrality

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Yeah, this seems fine.

Criterion #5: Stable

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Yep!

Criterion #6: Imaged

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Add alt-text, please! I'm also unsure about the usefulness of the emblem of the Lafayette Escadrille; wouldn't that picture of his funeral from the 1920 Nordhoff source be more specific?

Sourcing on the images checks out though.


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Photo

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Why is the photo labeled "ca. 1917–1925" when it's known that he died in 1917? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.97.151.226 (talk) 18:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The image summary on Wikimedia Commons states that the date of the photograph was between 1917 and 1925. The Smithsonian American Art Museum also states so. The artist also died in 1925, so for short: I'm not sure. ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 16:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]