Talk:Pennsylvania Route 980

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Regarding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Route_980

Under Route Direction is a banner: "This article or section is written in the wrong direction. " However, this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_U.S._Roads/Standards says "These standards are not set in stone, however, and can be ignored if warranted for a particular highway article, but they should be used on nearly all highway articles under this project's scope."

To re-write the PA Route 980 article to comply with wikipedia "direction" standards would require the writer to start at the terminus rather than where this route BEGINS. The begining and terminus are clearly stated in the content of this article.

Many highways in SW PA were "cut" (leaving an abrupt ending of the roadway), re-routed completely ("moved" N, E, S, or W from its original layout, BUT leaving an "old" and "new" route[s] almost side by side,) OR were never finished routes, resulting in this conflict between wikipedia's standards about accepted "direction" and the facts of where certain routes are said to begin and end. [The route changes on many SW PA routes in Allegheny County, Washington County, and Greene County PA occurred when PA laid out Interstate 70 and Interstate 79, causing them to "cut" the old PA Route-roadways.) To "begin" where wikipedia asks would require a person, on these cut routes, to mentally stand in a field and then step onto the road (at its terminal point), rather than where the route begins as a turn-off or leading from another well-known or larger route. Thus, leaving the banner on this page creates confusion for readers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.10.55.23 (talk) 15:43, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, USRD articles are written in south-to-north and west-to-east order as that is the order the mileposts increase. Since PA 980 is currently signed north-south and the mileposts start in the south in the PennDOT SLD, the route description should be in south-to-north order. Dough 48 72 16:40, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]