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Requested move 27 September 2018

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move either one. There's some support for the Ohio one, but not consensus even for that (non-admin closure) В²C 05:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]


– To move to the singular form (MOS:SINGULAR) and, in the case of the Pennsylvania article, to capitalize the name of the court, which appears to be the convention used for most other court names. See, e.g., the articles listed at Court of Common Pleas, which are all shown there with uppercase. The change to uppercase for the Pennsylvania article would revert an undiscussed move in 2010. Another possibility would be to move them to Court of Common Pleas (Pennsylvania) and Court of Common Pleas (Ohio)BarrelProof (talk) 00:46, 27 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 10:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. IffyChat -- 13:55, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - I'm not sure here. Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals)#Exceptions: Articles on groups of distinct entities that are nevertheless often considered together seems to fit this scenario. Regarding the capitalization of the name, per the official site it is "Pennsylvania Courts of Common Pleas". --Gonnym (talk) 15:41, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    If we focus on the concept of a group of courts rather than such a court in the WP:SINGULAR, then I believe Wikipedia guidelines would favor lowercase, because this would not then be a proper noun, regardless of whether an official website uses capital letters. If we go in that direction, that would suggest moving the Ohio article but not the Pennsylvania one. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:27, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Florida Keys (and not Florida keys) is an example of from that exception bullet that uses both plural and capital letters. --Gonnym (talk) 07:50, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Florida Keys seems a bit different. That's the proper name of a place – an archipelago – not a collection of institutions. In some sense, I think Florida Keys is somewhat similar to Miami Marlins. It looks plural, but it's functionally singular – it's one specific thing in some sense. And geographical locations seem to have a strong tendency for capitalization and distinct guidelines (WP:PLACE). Even things that have names derived from places inherit the capitalization to indicate that – e.g., Key lime and West Indian manatee. —BarrelProof (talk) 13:49, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.