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Requested move 28 June 2020

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 07:50, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]



People from IbizaPeople from Ibiza (song) – the clear primary topic for "People from Ibiza" is people from the island of Ibiza (see e.g. this Gbooks search, which concentrates reliable sources). Since we don't have an article on the demographics of Ibiza, this title "People from Ibiza" should be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to Ibiza. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:17, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't think a dab is needed when there is no other existing article for this one to be confused with. A hatnote at the top like would suffice. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jonesey95, the lack of another standalone article is not a relevant criterion. The policy os explicit:

    The fact that an article has a different title is not a factor in determining whether a topic is primary

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--BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:20, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The guideline (not policy) says that, but there is no article about people from Ibiza. So far, there is only a 63-word, two-sentence paragraph listing a few notable people from the island. Unless someone wants to develop a real article about the Ibizan people from possible sources, I don't see much of a future in the topic or a reason to create a dab title for this song.
As for the title "People from Ibiza" and WP:DETERMINEPRIMARY, I don't see anything in the Ngram Viewer, so we may be left with a Google search, which shows this single in all of the top hits except for one, which is a link to Category:People from Ibiza. That seems to say that this song is the primary topic. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:35, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonesey95, you're missing the point. True, we currently have very little in the article Ibiza about its people. But there is nothing in policy or the guideline to support your notion that the primacy of a topic is determined (even in part) by the scale of en.wp coverage. Primacy is a property of the topic, not the article ... and the history of people on island which they have inhabited for thousands of years is massively more significant than a song from nearly 40 years ago.
Your use of Google is wrong. You did a general Google search (which includes user-generated content and other unreliable sources), instead of doing what I did, which is search in reliable sources. Per WP:COMMONNAME, titling decisions follow reliable sources. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Zone Toons information does not seem relevant

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In 2021, Zone Toons created a "Merry Merry Christmas (And A Happy New Horizons)" music video based on Sandy Marton's Christmas re-mix.

I'm unsure how this fits with the rest of the article. I don't think the mention of what video a song was featured in qualifies to be in this section. Snickerdoooodle (talk) 16:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]