Talk:Percy Statton/GA1

GA Review

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• It is reasonably well written.

  a (prose): b (MoS):

• Intro: Are you following a particular method for linking things here? For instance First World War is linked but not Second World War, and I would've thought Australian Imperial Force would be worth a link there as well. No doubt there are others but those are the ones that stick out.

• No method; just randomly link some terms. I just didn't want to over link the lead, but the above have been done. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

• First World War:
  • During this time, Statton was promoted to temporary sergeant on 16 January 1917. "During this time" is redundant given we have a precise date.
    • Done. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  • The paragraph beginning The 40th Battalion began their attack at approximately 07:30... uses both "their" as a possessive for the battalion (see first sentence, among others) and "its" (The battalion was later able to reach its objectives). I believe grammatically "its" is correct, seeing as it's one battalion, even though it contains many people. If you refer to the "members of the battalion", then obviously "their" is correct. At any rate, it needs to be consistent. Pls check rest of the article for this as well.
    • Done. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  • By 20:00, both battalion's.... Plural "battalions", not possessive "battalion's".
    • Whoops. Done. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  • ...the name of Sergeant Percy Statton would appear in the London Gazette announcing to the world that he had been awarded the Victoria Cross. Reckon "to the world" is a bit OTT and can be safely deleted...
    • Done. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  • ...before he was granted a month leave. Should be "a month's leave" I think.
    • Done. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

• It is factually accurate and verifiable.

  a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

• Citation #13, "Statton, Percy Clyde T560". Records Search. National Archives of Australia. should be a link to a particular file, at least, since a few digital copies come up when you search for him.
  • If you search the term used in the citation (Statton, Percy Clyde T560) you will find the correct file; it is the only one that comes up. I didn't and haven't linked to the exact file as I'm pretty sure it won't work, and instead go to something like "Search has expired, please log in" or something. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
    • That's interesting, I've used a direct link to Richard Williams' AIF Personnel File in Richard Williams (RAAF officer) and it seems to work. However if you had probs with it I won't hold up the GA on that account. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
      • Hmm, that's unusual, I'm sure I've seen problems with this before. However, if Williams' file works, then I'll see what I can do for Statton's. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 11:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

• It is broad in its coverage.

  a (major aspects): b (focused):

• I can imagine the answer but is no significant info regarding his service in World War II? If nothing else, I think we could at least use the WWII Nominal Roll and say he was in the 5th Battalion Volunteer Defence Corps at his discharge.
  • No book source or the ADB even mentions he served in the Second World War; quite ridiculous really. I couldn't dig much out of his service file at the NA, but the little I could I did add in. ie. Statton's commission. Have added in the 5th Battalion. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

• It follows the neutral point of view policy.

  a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

• It is stable.

  No edit wars etc.:

• It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

  a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

• Think it's worth including the date, even if circa, for the infobox portrait.
  • I'd prefer not to add the date as it would be "c. 1918–1920". Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Yes, saw the circa 1918-20 and don't see that as an issue, but not that fussed about it. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

• Overall:

  a Pass/Fail:

Overall, very good, but placing on hold for the moment. Pls respond to the above in the next 7 days so the article can be passed.

Thanks for the review, mate. I think I've addressed all the issues raised, and have replied in the appropiate sections above and below. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Other comments not affecting GA review:

• Intro: This is a general, if minor, thing for all the VC articles that I only picked up on while expanding Frank Hubert McNamara, and which I'll be altering there, namely word repetition in the opening line: ...was an Australian recipient of the Victoria Cross, the highest award for gallantry "in the face of the enemy" that can be awarded to members of the British and Commonwealth armed forces. I'm changed the first "award" to "decoration" in McNamara's article to avoid this repetition, although there are plenty of other combinations that could be used.
  • I've actually never really thought about this before, but have followed your suggestion and substituted "award" for "decoration" in the first instance. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
• First World War : I guessing there's only the two pics you've used that are available, since one in this section would help.
  • I searched everywhere possible looking for an additional photo, but the only other one I could find is vertually the same as the one in the infobox. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
• Later life:
  • True to her word that she would leave him if he went off to war, Statton and his wife divorced on 1 October 1920. Because of the focus on his wife at the start of the sentence, I think "Statton's wife divorced him on..." is better phrasing.
    • Done. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  • In 1956, Statton joined the Australian contingent of Victoria Cross recipients who attended the parade in London's Hyde Park to commemorate the centenary of the institution of the Victoria Cross. Suggest the second mention of "Victoria Cross" should be abbreviated to "the VC" or "the award", to avoid repetition.
    • Changed to "the award"; I'm not exactly a fan of abbreviations. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, looks good - passed and well done! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)