Talk:Peter Beck (priest)

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A fact from Peter Beck (priest) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 October 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that after the February 2011 Christchurch earthquake, dean Peter Beck was described as a "figurehead of the city"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2011/October.

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Birth date?[edit]

Surely a modern person as prominent as this has a known birth date (the not-even-sure-what-year approach looks really cheesy). Equally surely, it would be easy to determine what it was. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 15:28, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's a wiki; please go ahead and find it. Schwede 66 18:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Possible conflict of interest[edit]

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This edit expanded the article with a lot of detail, all of which is not backed up by references. I very much doubt that the information is in the public domain and it appears likely that the editor has a close connection to the subject. Examples that demonstrate insider knowledge are:

"He fully subscribes to the view that the wisdom of the local community far exceeds the knowledge of the experts."
"He was a member of the team ministry of Glenfield Cooperating Parish on the North Shore of Auckland from 1981 to 1985, and was active in supporting projects for disadvantaged youth. He moved on to be Vicar of St Luke's Mt ALbert in Auckland and Archdeacon of Waitemata. During this time he was appointed to the executive of the National Council of CHurches and was their representative on Te Runanga Whakawhanaunga i Nga Hahi o Aotearoa. He was a spokesperson for the N.C.C. in support of the 1986 Homosexual Law Reform Bill."

Furthermore, the editor removed the only controversial statement in the article, including its reference (which I have restored):

"Disagreement between Beck and Bishop Victoria Matthews were cited as his reason for leaving.[19] There was criticism of Matthews being out of touch with the community on the Cathedral's future and calls for her resignation.[19]"

As the article states, Beck is currently contesting an election. Schwede 66 09:58, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the first sentence form the article. It is unsourced and it does not add much anyway. It looks like electioneering. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 19:26, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of reference[edit]

@Snori: With this edit, you have left the section 'Personal life' unreferenced. I therefore do not get the second part of your edit summary, which reads: "Not really relevant, and nothing is left "unreferenced" by deleting this." Schwede 66 22:22, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I still can't see what the problem is. There is still a section "==Personal life==", nothing in it has changed bar some text and a ref. That ref is fine, and defined and used elsewhere. The "==Personal life==" section is still 'working' from the TOC, and not referenced in any way from anywhere else as far as I can see. - Snori (talk) 22:33, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Snori: The problem is that there is no reference in the 'Personal life' section. You deleted it. It is now unreferenced. Schwede 66 00:05, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Duh! Thanks, maybe I need more coffee? - Snori (talk) 01:20, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Possible article amendments[edit]

I'm sitting down with Peter at present. He now knows that I'm a WP editor because The Press wrote about. By now, I know Peter, so I've got a conflict of interest as outlined here. He suggests that the following needs updating / could be updated:

At the same time as being team vicar in the Banbury Parish, he was the Oxford Diocese Youth and Community Officer. In 1978, he moved to Lincoln Diocese as Lincoln City Centre caplain, vicar of St Mary le Wigford parish church, and convenor of the Lincoln City Centre Group ministry. One of his achievements there was to restore the Anglo-Saxon Tower, which predated the Norman conquest.
Between St Matthew and Vaughn Park, he took time out from stipendiary ministry and moved to Wellington to work as a management consultant with DBM and later the Acumen Group. In particular, he worked as personal mentor to CEOs and senior executives as well as assisting organisations in team building and conflict management. After moving on in 2002, he continues to work in this area in self employment.
He is an ongoing member of the Avon-Ōtākaro Network and is the convenor of Eastern Vision. These community groups are committed to ensuring the best outcomes for the eastern Christchurch communities.
He had Sir Paul Reeves as a friend and mentor and was a pallbearer at his funeral.
Saint Matthews. In 1995 during the Commonwealth heads of government meeting in Auckland, Beck welcomed President Nelson Mandela to Saint Matthews where he thanked New Zealand for the support we gave to the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa.

That's it. I'll post some more thoughts later. Schwede 66 23:21, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Right, that was a bit of a rushed meeting. It started late and somebody else had a pre-arranged appointment that was coming up. Anyway, I've only had enough time to document Peter's thoughts and that's it. I did not have time to explore whether there are reliable sources to back any of this up. I'll catch up with him again at some point and will quiz him then. Meanwhile, if anybody wants to go ahead with finding sources for the above, please do so and expand the article as you see fit. Schwede 66 23:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]