Talk:Peter Henlein

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1510: Peter Henlein invents the pocket watch during his asylum from 1504 to 1508.(?) His small, drum-shaped Taschenuhr could run for 40 hours before it needed rewinding. Portable watch, which he invented was known as Nuremberger Ei or Nuremberg Egg since when closed it very much resembled one.

Heinlein is alternative spelling[edit]

on Google test ( "Peter Henlein" watch ) returns 6900 hits whereas ("Peter Heinlein" watch ) returns 2340 hits. Spelling Hele in the above query returns also 2340 while Henle merely 200. So the Heinlein definitely deserves notice. Watcher (talk) 20:22, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t know peter who is he can you show me him for real.

And who’s this again please tell me or call me my number is:07478220230 2.102.187.82 (talk) 16:46, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong image caption?[edit]

In the german version of the article[1] the image of the Henlein Watch is tagged as "mistakenly to Peter Henlein attributed watch". I can't say which version is right or wrong, though.

[1]http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Henlein

POV and peacock content[edit]

Someone with a POV rewrote this article adding a lot of hyperbole, WP:OFFTOPIC historical content, and unreliable sources to try to establish that Henlein is the sole inventor of the watch. The most reliable sources I have read, the Dohrn-van Rossum, Cipolla, and White books cited, say there is no evidence Henlein was the first to make timepieces worn on the body, that there were other clockmakers in Germany making these small clocks, and Henlein just got a lot of attention owing to the Cosmografia quote. I rewrote the "Life" section, but there is still plenty of WP:PEACOCK language and quotes from peripheral sources in the "Recognition and Commemoration", "Commemoration" and "Influence of Henlein" sections saying that Henlein is the inventor of the watch. However a lot of these dubious sources are in German, which I can't read. If someone who reads German could vet the German sources, judging whether they qualify as reliable and if they support the statements in the text, that would be great. Thanks! It would be fine if someone else wants to work on this, but if not sooner or later I will get back and rewrite the remaining sections. --Chetvorno^TALK 08:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, in connection with the erroneous claims about Henlein in this article, there are a lot of unsupported claims and peacock language in Watch 1505 that it is the "first watch". If someone would like to fix that article, I don't have time right now. --Chetvorno^TALK 21:10, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

+1 Chetvorno, and similar problems with the article in French. Btw, where is the expression "Watch 1505" used besides on Wikipedia/ Wikipédia?--Msbbb (talk) 21:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the news stories about the watch in popular magazines and websites [1], [2] seem to use that name, I don't know where it originated. Would guess these are also the (unreliable) sources LBEAS uses for his claim that it is the "first watch", and that Henlein is the "inventor of the watch". --Chetvorno^TALK 04:17, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]