Talk:Phalanger (compiler)

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I removed WP: Software, because I think it has been put without any objective reason. There are many compilers in wikipedia (like Tiny C Compiler and others, and tens of C compilers). This compiler is unique. ~~Also I think original poster put this tag here because it had a conflict with his own article (Phalanger)~~ . Tulkolahten 21:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing unsupported claims about speed being faster than native PHP. According to their own benchmarks (found here http://php-compiler.net/doku.php?id=core%3abenchmarks, graph one) Phalanger is clearly slower. (This benchmark is also faulty, since they're not comparing against precompiled php (like APC, x-cache, Zend Optimzer ect.), yet the .NET conversion is precompiled. Pre-compiled code is per definition faster, thus phalanger would be even slower in comparison.)

The second benchmark is an ISS+PHP vs. IIS+.NET. Since .NET is native to IIS, the comparison is useless in this case.

Finally, since no further documentation on how to reproduce the bechmark, such the benchmark scripts, exists on the page, the entire test is scientifically invalid.

87.53.32.90 (talk) 15:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Performance section

Like stated in the comment above (of May 2010), there is still no documentation as to how the benchmark is performed (May 2013). It is simply a page on the developers own website, with graphs showing Phalanger as faster than PHP. It is a problem, that this is stated as "fact" and is in violation of Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources section 3.3 (self-published sources), point 1 and 2 as it is self-serving, makes exceptional claims and involves claims about third parties.

Correction should be made by either rephrasing, re-sourcing or removing.

77.243.128.133 (talk) 14:53, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Like stated in the comment above (of May 2010), there is still no documentation as to how the benchmark is performed (May 2013)."

That may be true, but only using the most literal interpretation of "documentation". Below the WordPress charts, the page states "Following tests are available in Phalanger’s source code repository." This text was on the page on 7 May 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/20130507195802/http://www.php-compiler.net/benchmarks . I didn't check prior dates that archive.org spidered the page.

Out of curiosity I checked the source code repository, and the benchmarks appear to be there: http://phalanger.codeplex.com/SourceControl/latest . Navigate to <version number> -> Testing -> Benchmarks. I didn't inspect the code nor run the benchmarks - I'm just pointing out that they appear to exist and are mentioned on the site.

173.13.156.125 (talk) 09:44, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Removing section "Microsoft & Dynamic languages"

"According to Microsoft, the primary goal of the project, released under Apache License on the Microsoft Codeplex, is to enable full functionality of existing PHP scripts on the .NET framework without any modifications" Source given: http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1718685037;fp;4;fpid;611908207

The referenced source does NOT say anything close to what is written here.

I'm removing the entire section as it is currently completely unsupported that Microsoft has said anything about Phalanger, the goals of phalanger or anything about running PHP without modifications..

Logixdk (talk) 07:43, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removing Pure Mode section

The product's wiki describes Pure Mode here: http://wiki.php-compiler.net/Pure_mode

What was in the article in the Pure Mode section is completely different than what's described in the product's wiki.

A more direct way to say it is: every sentence in the Pure Mode section in the article was wrong. Not just a little bit wrong such that with some editing it could become correct. Incorrectably wrong.

Apologies if I've offended.

173.13.156.125 (talk) 00:01, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]