Talk:Phil Ford (basketball)

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Drunk driving arrests[edit]

I don't think that his getting two DUIs (one in Michigan, the other in North Carolina) is in doubt; where was it stated that he was canned at unc-ch because of them? It merely said that he was let go after he received the second one. He was, in fact, let go after receiving a second DUI. "Duke53 | Talk" 23:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Cite the DUIs and include that. Then cite the fact that UNC fired him for DUIs and cite that. Seems simple enough. Dubc0724 03:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I cited the facts of the DUIs; I never stated that he was fired because of the DUIs, only that he was fired after he received the second DUI. If you want to cite that other stuff, have at it. I don't like what you're implying or the fact that you feel you can tell me what and how to edit this article. That is simple enough. "Duke53 | Talk" 04:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for citing the DUI claim. But the way it was written (perhaps by an earlier editor) implied that UNC fired him for getting DUIs. All that has been cited is that he received DUIs. I'll rewrite that part if it still seems misleading.

"I don't like what you're implying or the fact that you feel you can tell me what and how to edit this article." Not sure why you're taking it so personally. I just asked for citations and I am trying to cut down on misleading information here & elsewhere. Thanks. Dubc0724 12:28, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Part 2 After another look, I took out the firing sentence altogether. The way it was written gave a misleading impression that UNC fired Ford for DUIs. I know, it said he was fired "after" two DUIs; he was also fired "after" the Holocaust, but I don't think we're saying that Ford was fired "because" of the Holocaust, are we? :-)

My sarcasm aside, I recall Ford being let go along with the rest of Guthridge's staff when Doherty came on. Doherty pissed off a lot of folks in Chapel Hill because he didn't keep the same assistant coaching staff on. (Doherty was right, IMO). But mentioning the DUIs in the same sentence gives a misleading impression. I'll rework shortly. Thanks Dubc0724 12:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose you're going to have it your way no matter what. AFAIK ford was fired for complaining too loudly about carolina players banging his wife (and I'm not being sarcastic). TTFN, Duke53 | ^Talk 23:54, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't have to "have it my way". The sentence was misleading, intentional or not. It's now sourced and I hope we can move on. And if you've got a reliable source about Carolina players humpin' Mrs. Ford, I'm sure that'd spice up an otherwise bland article! Just be careful of WP:LIVING. Cheers. Dubc0724 02:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

:) Duke53 | ^Talk 04:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just meant I'd never heard that story. I've been missing out on the seedier side, I suppose! Dubc0724 12:17, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You never heard any stories about Mrs. Ford and any unc-ch basketball player? Careful here. TTFN, Duke53 | ^Talk 13:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, seriously. Never have. I'll have to Google it. Thanks Dubc0724 13:41, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Googled it. Interesting. Don't know how I missed all that. :-) Thanks, Dubc0724 23:04, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've re-removed the material per WP:NPF - Wikipedia also contains biographies of people who, while notable enough for an entry, are not generally well known. In such cases, editors should exercise restraint and include only material relevant to their notability, while omitting information that is irrelevant to the subject's notability. DUI's are sadly common but this was years ago and seems to have little relevance. If something changes drastically then revisit the issue. Benjiboi 01:59, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed that material also. If there is an article that says his DUI impacted his job, ect then maybe it should be included, otherwise, just leave it out unless there is some point to be made. Thank you. --24.250.59.250 (talk) 01:06, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the material that keeps getting added back by an editor with some kind of axe to grind. Please take that elsewhere, maybe your blog? --68.9.118.55 (talk) 16:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While Ford's DUI arrests are no secret it seems that some editors think that since Ford's notability is limited to just basketball, and that this article should be restricted to just discussing these issues and other unrelated personal matters (such as the DUI) should not be listed. I don't have any strong feelings about this one way or the other, but I think we should bring in some neutral admins to help come up with a settlement of this issue otherwise this will go on indefinitely. Remember (talk) 14:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Am I missing something here ? Mention of Ford's two drunk driving arrests haven't been included in this article since February 12, 2008[1], as far as I can tell. What's this latest go-round about? Duke53 | ^Talk 05:51, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

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Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Phil Ford (basketball)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

How can there be an article on Phil Ford with no mention of the loved/hated 4 corners offense? An article on Ford is not complete without mention of the advent of the shot clock due in large part to this one player and his coach.

Last edited at 17:01, 7 July 2010 (UTC). Substituted at 02:49, 30 April 2016 (UTC)