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This person is not entitled to the title of prince[edit]

When he was born, the last king regnant of Yugoslavia, his grandfather Peter, had been dead.

Only the reigning monarch of any realm has the authority to grant the title of prince to anyone (including his own offspring).

This person's father was not only not a king regnant when this person was born, he was not even a citizen of the country whose princedom he purports to have granted to his son (Crown Prince Alexander lost Yugoslav citizenship as a toddler). This is simply not done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.245.93.169 (talk) 21:53, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Members of the former ruling families of Brazil, Mexico, Iran, Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria, France (Bourbon, Orléans, Bonaparte), Georgia, Greece, Montenegro, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Italy (Savoy, Bourbon-Two Sicilies, Austria-Este, Bourbon-Parma, Habsburg-Lorraine), Prussia, Bavaria, Hanover, Saxony, Hesse, Oldenburg, Brunswick, Schleswig-Holstein, and even Hawai'i still (to varying degrees--the Hawai'ians and Habsburgs are less keen) use their former titles; in many cases "prince" and "princess", sometimes "duke", "archduke", etc.; even though the last reigning monarchs produced by their families died 100+ years ago. Not only is continuing to use a title once officially held by your family as a mark of recognition for their place in history not "simply not done", it's more common today than actually being officially entitled to such a senior title by virtue of a close, living relative of yours being a reigning monarch.

Besides, this article is very clear (as of recently at least) as to Philip's names and titles: his name is "Filip Karađorđević", he is "known in English as Prince Philip Karageorgevitch" (as I say, in recognition of his family's role in their country's history), and is "unoficially titled Philip, Hereditary Prince of Serbia and Yugoslavia". 194.168.183.185 (talk) 15:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]