Talk:Philipp Schall von Bell

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I replaced Bernt Schall von Bell with Werner, which should be more widely used name form. Philipp also wasn't commander-in-chief of all Livonian Confederation, but only Livonian Order's forces. Athanasius Soter (talk) 14:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good (I'd leave Bernt in parenthesis because it appears to be just as widely used). BTW, Google Books has a complete scanned archive of Livonian correspondence to Philipp von Bell, in Latin and in a peculiar German dialect with double n's. NVO (talk) 23:35, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Also, Bishop of Dorpat wasn't actually only sole survivor of notable Livonian prisoners, in August 1560 imprisoned ex-Master of the Order Wilhelm (von) Fürstenberg was living in Russia until his death of natueal causes in 1568. Athanasius Soter (talk) 16:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]