Talk:Physical (Dua Lipa song)

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Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 27, 2020.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the music video for Dua Lipa's song "Physical" is based on a Venn diagram from 1981?

This article should be deleted[edit]

I don't find any results for this article on English Wikipedia when trying to search for it on Google, which means that this article failed to gain popularity outside Wikipedia. I therefore wants this article to be deleted. Please discuss the deletion here. Karamellpudding1999 (talk) 08:31, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Genres[edit]

For future reference, here is what the majority of sources have said:

Power pop
Synth-pop

Cool Marc 19:33, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Nomination[edit]

LOVI33, Nominators who are not significant contributors to the article should consult regular editors of the article on the article talk page prior to a nomination is one of the first lines on the WP:GAI page. I can’t see any public record of a consultation between the nominator and article contributors.—NØ 14:37, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MaranoFan, Coolmarc has retired, Username6892 was simply taking over for him in order to get the article to GA as Coolmarc retracted his nomination. LOVI33 14:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
LOVI33, Username6892 have one edit to the article which is a revert. It would be highly recommended they consult one of the top 10 contributors to the article prior to a nomination. This really isn’t hard to understand.—NØ 14:44, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
MaranoFan, I'm the forth most contributor (even though I haven't done much compared to Coolmarc), should I nominate it then? LOVI33 14:50, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It does look like Coolmarc has retired for real this time. Since he is disproportionately the only major contributor of this article, and cannot be approached for his permission, U6892 may proceed with the nomination. For future reference, the latter is not permitted to nominate it at FAC due to the lack of contributions.—NØ 09:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Physical (Dua Lipa song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 07:29, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


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3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
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This review may come in stages of sorts because the article is very large, so if I add an edit only mentioning certain sections, that will not be the end of the review. --Kyle Peake (talk) 07:29, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead[edit]

  • Infobox looks good
  • "and Sarah Hudson, inspired by" → "and Sarah Hudson, taking inspiration from"
  • Target synth to Synthesizer
  • "sample the former played" → "sample that was played by the former"
  • Wikilink uptempo to itself per MOS:LINK2SECT
  • ""Physical" features a chugging" → "the track features a chugging"
  • "uses a spoken-word delivery" → "uses a spoken word delivery" with the appropriate wikilink
  • Target bridge to Bridge (music)
  • "the chorus which includes a reference" → "the chorus, which includes a reference" with the appropriate target
  • Target to Physical (Olivia Newton-John song) should solely be on "of the same name"
  • Release info should be the sentence after production
  • Mention that the single release was for digital download and streaming
  • Target single to Single (music)
  • ""Physical" was met with critical acclaim" → ""Physical" received acclaim from music critics"
  • "as unique reinterpretation of the" → "as uniquely reinterpreting the"
  • "The song peaked at number three" → "The track peaked at number three"
  • "making it Lipa's eighth UK top 10 single" → "becoming Lipa's eighth UK top 10 single"
  • "US Billboard Hot 100 where it debuted" → "US Billboard Hot 100, debuting"
  • "Elsewhere, "Physical" reached number one" → "Elsewhere, the track reached number one"
  • "and peaked in the top ten in sixteen" → "and peaked in the top 10 of 16"
  • Are you sure these positions shouldn't be ordered with the number one/top 10 sentence first, followed by UK then US? I may be incorrect, but feel free to comment.
  • This was coolmarc's original nom (I renominated after they retired), so I decided to check another GA for clarification. It put the number ones first, so I decided to reorder the positions accordingly. Username6892 15:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Target high concept to High-concept
  • Wikilink music video to itself
  • "their 1981 series of works, Order and Cleanliness" → "their series of works Order and Cleanliness (1981)"
  • "It shows Lipa dancing in" → "The video shows Lipa dancing in"
  • Follow with a sentence about the video's reception from critics
  • "workout video in which Lipa" → "workout video, in which Lipa"
  • "A remix featuring South Korean singer Hwasa was" → "A remix of the track, featuring South Korean singer Hwasa, was"
 Done
Username6892 I have since added further comments here. --Kyle Peake (talk) 16:45, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Writing and production[edit]

  • "It was inspired by" → "The song was inspired by"
  • "The song was recorded at" → "It was recorded at"
  • "and suggested the use of" → "and she suggested the usage of"
  • Target fine-tuned to Fine-tuning
  • "which according to Evigan was nearly excluded" → "which was nearly excluded according to Evigan"
  • "backing vocals with Lipa" → "backing vocals with Lipa, simultaneously"
  • "which Hudson would note down in" → "which Hudson noted down in"
  • "were written inspired by the 1980s era" → "were written with inspiration from the 1980s era"
  • "while experimenting with a bedroom" → "when experimenting with a bedroom"
  • "in the chorus" → "in the chorus of "Physical"" with the target
  • Target to Physical (Olivia Newton-John song) should solely be on "of the same name"
  • "However, Lipa's track was not" → "However, the former was not"
  • "although she acknowledged afterwards" → "although Lipa acknowledged afterwards"
  • "a nod" to it" → "a nod" to the song"
  • "vibe to it."" → "vibe to it"."
 Done

Music and lyrics[edit]

  • "of the spoken-word bridge where" → "of the spoken word bridge, in which" on the audio sample text, with the wikilink and target
  • Target chorus to Refrain
  • "led by a synth flute melody" → "that is led by a synth flute melody" with the target and wikilink
  • Add ref(s) on the sample's text to verify that info
  • Wikilink uptempo to itself
  • "and the key of" → "in the key of"
  • Target synth to Synthesizer
  • "and heavily processed" → "and a heavily processed"
  • Target kick to Bass drum
  • "in the verses" → "throughout the verses"
  • "in the chorus build-up" → "in the build-up to the chorus"
  • "vocal register before a spoken-word bridge" → "vocal register prior to the song's spoken word bridge" with the wikilink
  • Target chords to Chord (music)
  • "introduced in this section along with" → "introduced in the section alongside"
  • "eighth note hi-hats and" → "eighth note hi-hats, and"
  • "chorus which ends with her" → "chorus, which all end with her" to specify it is all choruses
  • "spanning the notes" → "spanning the notes of"
  • "her pleas to commands, and" → "her pleas to commands while"
  • "the lyrics are about" → "the song's lyrics are about"
  • [20][21] should both be solely at the end of the sentence
 Done

Release and promotion[edit]

  • Remove wikilink on Future Nostalgia
  • Wikilink social media to itself
  • "was released the following day" → "was shared on January 24 of that year"
  • "with contrasting coloured" → "that has contrasting coloured"
  • "on 25 January 2020" → "the following day"
  • "premiered as the album's second single" → "was released for digital download and streaming as the album's second single" with the targets
  • "Lipa gave her first live performance" → "Lipa delivered her first live performance"
  • "was released on Spotify" → "was released via Spotify"
  • "On 17 March 2020, a remix featuring South Korean singer Hwasa" → "On 17 March of that year, a remix of the song, featuring South Korean singer Hwasa,"
  • "It features Hwasa singing" → "The remix includes Hwasa singing"
  • Target Korean to Korean language
  • "was shared on" → "was shared to"
  • "A remix by" → "A remix of the song by"
  • "was released the same day" → "was released on the same day"
  • "to promote its release" → "to promote the remix's release"
  • "(EP) including remixes" → "(EP) for "Physical", including remixes"
  • "and Claptone was released" → "and Claptone, was released"
 Done

Critical reception[edit]

  • "received acclaim from music critics" → "was met with acclaim from music critics"
  • Ref 18 should not be here, since the section itself backs up the claim of "acclaim"
  • "regarded it among" → "regarded the song among"
  • Target pop to Pop music
  • "irresistibly catchy"," → "irresistibly catchy"."
  • "and said it is" → "and said the former is"
  • "Louise Bruton called it" → "Louise Bruton called the song"
  • "Eric Torres wrote that its" → "Eric Torres wrote that the song's"
  • "imitative devotion."" → "imitative devotion"."
  • "shared a similar view" → "expressed similar feelings"
  • "writing that the song resisted" → "writing that "Physical" resisted"
  • "and its reference to" → "and the reference to"
  • "Jonathan Wright of God Is in the TV meanwhile wrote" → "Meanwhile, Jonathan Wright of God Is in the TV wrote"
  • "a thrilling energy."" → "a thrilling energy"."
  • [17][46] should both be solely at the end of the sentence in numerical order
  • "while Brad Garcia of" → "while Brad Garcia from"
  • "vocal register, naming it among" → "vocal register and named it among"
  • "Yasmin Cowan of" → "Yasmin Cowan from"
  • "total lack thereof" and" → "total lack thereof", and"
  • "in Perfect."" → "in Perfect"."
  • "wrote that the song is" → "wrote that "Physical" is"
  • "to the album's title."" → "to the album's title"."
  • "but being akin to" → "but viewed the song as akin to"
  • "best song of 2020" → "best song of the year"
 Done

Commercial performance[edit]

  • "the UK Singles Chart with first-week sales" → "the UK Singles Chart, with first-week sales"
  • "had a 30% sales increase and rose to a peak of number three with sales of" → "experienced a 30% sales increase and peaked at number three, selling"
  • "and Lipa's other single" → "and Lipa's single"
  • Add release year of "Break My Heart" in brackets
  • "also charted in the top 10 that week" → "also reached the top 10 of the chart that week"
  • "since Vera Lynn in 1952 to have three songs chart simultaneously in the top 10" → "to have three songs chart simultaneously in the top 10 since Vera Lynn in 1952"
  • "Lipa was the fifth female" → "Lipa became the fifth female"
  • "to achieve this after Lynn" → "to achieve this, following on from Lynn"
  • "in the UK" → "of the UK Singles Chart"
  • "for track-equivalent sales of 400,000 units" → "for track-equivalent sales of 400,000 units in the United Kingdom"
  • "where it peaked at number two" → "and peaked at number two"
  • "by "Roses" by Saint Jhn" → "by Saint Jhn's track "Roses" (2016)"
  • "and peaked at number 14" → "and ultimately peaked at number 14"
  • "number 97 and in its fifteenth week rose to number 30" → "number 97, and in its 15th week, the song reached number 30"
  • "debuted at number 30 on" → "debuted at number 30 on the"
  • "dated 16 February 2020" → "issue dated 16 February 2020"
  • "rose to a peak of number nine while" → "rose to a peak of number nine on the chart, while"
  • "at number three and six respectively" → "at number three and six, respectively"
  • "simultaneously in the top 10" → "simultaneously in the top 10 of the ARIA Singles Chart"
  • "radio in the country and spent" → "radio in the country, and spent"
  • "was present on the chart for 11 weeks" → "lasted for 11 weeks on the chart"
  • "number 38 in Brazil where it was" → "number 38 in Brazil, where it was later"
 Done

Music video[edit]

Production and concept[edit]

  • Wikilink music video to itself
  • "was directed Lope Serrano" → "was directed by Lope Serrano"
  • "Lipa contacted Canada to direct the video through their London office" → "Lipa contacted Canada through his London office to direct the video"
  • "The video was shot over three" → "The visual was shot over the time span of three"
  • "for the production which involved" → "for the production, which involved"
  • "Lipa's stunt double mainly" → "Lipa's stunt double, mainly"
  • "which required balance on" → "which required balancing on"
  • "as part of its" → "as part of the brand's"
  • "The high-concept video is" → "The high-concept music video is"
  • "series of works, Order and Cleanliness" → "series of works Order and Cleanliness"
  • "in the diagram (human being" → "in the diagram; human being"
  • "animals and matter) to" → "animals, and matter, to"
  • "to form new concepts" → "to form new ones"
  • "and results in the central concept" → "and this results in the central concept"
  • "at the back of their shirts" → "on the back of their shirts,"
  • "The video concept was" → "The concept of the video was"
  • "and crescendo which Serrano" → "and crescendo, which Serrano"
  • Wikilink sexual arousal to itself
 Done

Synospsis[edit]

  • Fill in alt text for the img
  • "in this scene" → "in one scene of the music video" on the img main text
  • "1981 series of works, Order and Cleanliness" → "series of works Order and Cleanliness (1981)"
  • Should this img be in the above sub-section instead?
  • "The video begins in a dark" → "The music video begins in a dark"
  • "red-lit setting where Lipa walks" → "red-lit setting, where Lipa walks"
  • "and takes off his jacket, pulling out a paper heart and blowing it away" → "that takes off his jacket, pulls out a paper heart and blows it away"
  • "where she pulls out his heart" → "in which she pulls out the dancer's heart"
  • "Lipa holds the dancer's" → "Lipa holds his"
  • "and they start to" → "and the two of them start to"
  • "with other dancers as she" → "with other dancers, while she"
  • "turning it to sparkling dust" → "turning it into sparkling dust"
  • "in a human scene licking" → "in a human scene, licking"
  • "to match each set" → "for matching each set"
  • "that in this final scene" → "that in the final scene,"
 Done, please review the alt text I filled in. Username6892 21:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That text is great, well done! --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Release and reception[edit]

  • "Lipa first teased the video's release" → "Lipa first teased the music video's release"
  • "20 January 2020 by sharing an" → "20 January 2020, sharing an"
  • "of the sports car with the caption," → "of a sports car, with the caption,"
  • "The music video premiered on" → "The video was released to"
  • "teaser trailer on YouTube," → "a teaser trailer on the platform,"
  • [27][68][81] should all be solely at the end of the sentence in numerical order
  • "Lipa shared on social media" → "shared on social media by Lipa"
  • "The teaser trailer showed Lipa" → "The trailer showed Lipa"
  • "a Rubik's cube and staring out" → "a Rubik's Cube while staring out" with the wikilink
  • "was released on YouTube" → "of the music video was shared via YouTube"
  • "wrote that "Physical" marked" → "wrote that the music video marked"
  • "and appreciating its diversity and rejection" → "while he appreciated the diversity, and rejection"
  • "said it "nearly broke" → "said the visual "nearly broke"
  • "Writing for MTV, Patrick Hosken" → "For MTV, Patrick Hosken"
  • "viewed it as" → "viewed the music video as"
  • Wikilink kaleidoscope to itself
  • "into something new."" → "into something new"."
  • Target maximalist to Maximalism
  • "and favoured deceptive" → "while also favoured deceptive"
  • "is shortlisted for" → "is shortlisted for both"
  • Remove the last sentence, since YouTube is constantly updating and if a written source hasn't mentioned views, then you are technically inflating success.
 Done

Workout video[edit]

  • Img needs alt text
  •  Already done The img seems to already have alt text. It you would like it modified, please let me know. Username6892 21:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of 1980s-inspired workout video" → "of the 1980s-inspired workout video" on the main text
  • "video for "Physical" directed by" → "video for "Physical", directed by"
  • "Carberry was released on" → "Carberry, was released to"
  • [89][88] should be in numerical order
  • "Sony's 360 Reality Audio using" → "Sony's 360 Reality Audio from the usage of"
  • "was released on" → "was released through"
  • "The video begins with Lipa dressed" → "The workout video begins with Lipa dressed"
  • "yellow leotard introducing herself" → "yellow leotard, introducing herself"
  • "and introducing the attendees:" → "and introduction of the attendees;"
  • "the Rump Shaker and the Crybaby" → "the Rump Shaker, and the Crybaby"
  • "for a water stop with Lipa noting" → "for a water stop, with Lipa noting"
  • Target neon to Neon lighting
  • "said it surpassed" → "said the workout video surpassed"
  • "music video of all time."" → "music video of all time"."
  • Target tongue in cheek to Tongue-in-cheek
  • "aerobics classes from the era" → "aerobics classes from the 1980s"
  • "was renewed during the" → "was renewed during the year's"
  •  Not done I don't think this is necessary (this is the only COVID-19 pandemic)
 Done

Track listing[edit]

  • Wikilink should be on Hwasa under his mention under featuring instead of the remix name
  • Target to Alok (DJ) should be on Alok under title instead
 Done

Personnel[edit]

  • Retitle to Credits and personnel
  • Any specific order here?
  • Not that I'm aware of. If you want it to have a specific order, please tell me. Username6892 01:14, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Either order it in the Tidal credits order, or alphabetically. --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done
  • Wikilinks and targets on the names should be added at all points when possible, including the lead artist
  • Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel
 Done

Charts[edit]

Weekly charts[edit]

  • Why is there an empty |- under here?
  • minus Removed
  • Are you sure the Bulgaria pick is correct since that is from "The world TOP 10"?
  • minus Removed It's not
  • Where do I access the chart position for Tophit ref?
For the first one, the chart history is on the first graph on the right. For the other 2, the song can be found by scrolling down through the chart. Username6892 01:14, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are you sure the Czech Radio chart should be included?
  • Is there an MOS Chart guideline that is against including this?
No that's why I was questioning it, but are you sure since this is a radio chart and singles is already included? --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The "singles" chart appears to be a "digital singles" chart, which makes it seem like digital sales. Username6892 18:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ditto for Slovakia
  • The peak for Slovenia is 6, not 7
  • Remove Ukraine Airplay per WP:CHARTS
Username6892 It does mention that but says Ukraine in bold so I believe you should remove this. --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It appears I'd already removed it. Username6892 18:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done

Monthly charts[edit]

  • Monthly chart performance for "Physical" → April 2020 monthly chart performance for "Physical"
  • I put the chart month with (2020) instead of at the title. Makes more sense to me.

Certifications[edit]

  • Certifiations and sales for "Physical" → Certifications and sales for "Physical"
 Done

Release history[edit]

  • Format → Format(s)
  • Hwasa remix → Hwasa Remix
  • Alok remix → Alok Remix
  • Remix EP → Remixes EP
  • All refs need to be centered
 Done

References[edit]

  • Make sure that all of these archived by using the tool
  • Copyvio score looks great at 18.0%
  • Cite Idolator as publisher instead for ref 13
  • Are you sure ref 19 is reliable per WP:TWITTER? Also, cite Twitter as publisher instead if you keep this.
  • I think this is the only thing I have left to do and I'm still undecided on this. I invite you to review the lead text I recently added for the music video's reception. Username6892 01:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Username6892 Did some copy editing of the music video text in lead, plus ref 19 should be removed or replaced (preferably the latter) since that tweet is from a fan account. Also, the various citation is incorrect and should be laid out like "All Day" instead. --Kyle Peake (talk) 07:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove wikilinks on Twitter for refs 24, 28, 31 and 80; same for ref 23 if ref 19 is kept
  • The wikilink to twitter appears to be part of the template {{cite tweet}}
  • Cite Inquisitr as publisher instead for ref 25
  • MOS:CAPS issues with ref 26 and remove wikilink on Twitter
  • Ref 37 should cite various iTunes of countries, since that release was apparently various
  • From the sample of countries I saw on iTunes, all said 25 March, which is leading me to believe that all the countries show the original date. Username6892 20:54, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Either way, multiple countries need to be cited for verifying this was indeed a various release. --Kyle Peake (talk) 07:03, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cite Popjustice as publisher instead for ref 41
  • Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 63
  • Cite Capital FM instead for ref 72
  • Cite Vavel as publisher instead for ref 74
  • Remove ref 87, as I explained in the music video section
  • Target Vulture to Vulture.com on ref 89
  • Cite Apple Music as the publisher for ref 98 to maintain consistency, with no wikilink
  • Ref 99 should cite various countries to verify that the release was various
  • Ref 107's archive does not display the proper info
  • Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 110 and target HRT to Hrvatska radiotelevizija
  • Fix ref 119's accessdate
  • The archive for ref 124 leads to a download for some reason?
  • Ref 140 is missing an accessdate
  • Remove SloTop50 from the title of ref 143
  • Wikilink Rolling Stone on ref 149 and add the data parameter
  • Cite Radio Date as the publisher for ref 158
 Done @Kyle Peake: I think I've fixed all the issues at this point. Username6892 17:06, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

External links[edit]

  • Good

Final comments and verdict[edit]

 On hold after reviewing this over the course of one day, glad to have done it broadly and that quick! --Kyle Peake (talk) 16:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Pass following on from the fixes being made, this is good to go! --Kyle Peake (talk) 18:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 13:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed: 2nd nom
  • Comment: No ALT preference

Improved to Good Article status by Coolmarc (talk), some GA fixes done by Username6892. Nominated by Username6892 (talk) at 18:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - hooks are both good, i personally prefer ALT1, could you add something to identify "Physical" as a Dua Lipa song (as in ALT0)?
QPQ: None required.

Overall: could also consider adding a photo of Dua Lipa if there is a suitable one? Mujinga (talk) 15:19, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mujinga: I've added an ALT 1a which identifies it as a Dua Lipa song. I'm less sure about whether a picture would be good for this one. Username6892 15:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Username6892: sure no worries on the picture it was just an idea, this is close to passing now, could you add the source to ALT1a and actually now I notice "Physical" needs the apostrophes in the other ALTs as well Mujinga (talk) 15:47, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done
OK this is good to go Mujinga (talk) 16:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]