Talk:Piety
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Speedy deletion
[edit]- I don't see the need to have an article if it's about a sentence long. This should either be deleted, added more information, or redirect/merge to another article.Ohyeahmormons 14:02, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Many articles are "about a sentence long." It just gives us all mroe reason to work toward improving them. • Rlloyd3 23:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- Some sort of article is needed here. It has dozens of incoming links, directly and via the redirect page pious. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Some ideas for additions to this article
[edit]Some issues an article on piety could discuss:
(1) Is it really a virtue? Is it a necessary? (2) The different kinds of pieties. It is not just a religious phenomenon. There is ideological piety, institutional piety, tribal piety. Some forms of patriotism could be regarded as a kind nationalistic piety. Environmentalists are often pious about our duty towards nature. People are pious about many secular values: human rights, "freedom"... etc. (3) What are the key traits of the pious attitude. (4) Is there a psychological phenomenon at the heart of piety - perhaps it is one of those unconscious mechanisms for attenuating cognitive dissonance. (5) Pious attitudes seem to be linked to the notion of taboo. Piety is a kind of unquestioning reverence for something while taboos involve a kind of unquestioning disgust. Blasphemy only exists where there is piety.
Perhaps there is a treatise on piety somewhere...
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Reworked the definition a bit, sill needs work
[edit]I elaborated on and reworked the definition slightly in order to encompass more people's views, although it still needs a lot of work. Is it was, it stongly emphasized the vague "spiritual" aspect of piety and neglected the "religious" aspect. I think perhaps after my changes it might lean a bit to the Abrahamic side of things, but I did my darndest to keep it NPOV. Someone else should definately try their hand at it, and see if he can get rid of some of the POV. (Obviously on a subject whose defintion varies from man to man, there will be some inherent POV, but we can keep it as low as possible).
One thing that would surely improve this article is a breif survey of how the different religions view piety. --Rosencrantz1 04:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Removal of some out-of-place material
[edit]I have just removed the following
In her work, Defy Gravity (2009), author Caroline Myss mentions prayers for invoking the "Grace of Piety" so that one can see every human being as divine.
on the grounds that its only relevance appears to be that this not obviously very notable book mentions piety (in what seems to me a way rather atypical of Christian understandings of piety, for what it's worth).
and the following
Also used in Giuseppe Verdi's Italian opera Attila the Hun.
on the grounds that the fact that a Verdi opera mentions piety again seems unworthy of mention here; further, there is no indication of what Verdi's opera says about piety, and the book offered as a reference is about Attila rather than Verdi and nothing more specific (e.g., page or chapter numbers) is given.
(I cynically wonder whether one or both were inserted with the intention of promoting the books they referenced, but I have no particular evidence of any such unencyclopaedic intent.)
Gareth McCaughan (talk) 18:33, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
God of War
[edit]The Latin term in turn may derive from Ancient Greek transliteration of Ancient Egyptian variants of Pouonsis or Piounsis meaning "wolf", an analogous name for the Egyptian war deity Wepwawet ("opener of the ways"), attested officially as early as 332 BC.[1] -Moved this here in hopes that someone might clarify the connection between piety and an Egyptian god of war. Mannanan51 (talk) 02:48, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
A potential source for fialial piety in Confucian philosophy could be Confucius' Analects. The translation from Ames & Rosemont goes into a fair bit of depth on this topic. 64.67.196.199 (talk) 23:59, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Filial piety citation
[edit]A potential source for fialial piety in Confucian philosophy could be Confucius' Analects. The translation from Ames & Rosemont goes into a fair bit of depth on this topic. 64.67.196.199 (talk) 00:00, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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