Talk:Pigs in culture

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I suggest this page should be moved to Pigs in popular culture, for consistenciy purposes (see Owls in popular culture, Frogs in popular culture). Mrbluesky 15:33, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pig disambiguation[edit]

There are discussions in progress on Talk:Pig (disambiguation) and Talk:Pig which affect this page. Please participate there (not here). Thank you. 69.3.72.249 (talk) 20:55, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever wrote the bit on idioms is terrible at idioms.[edit]

"Pigs Get Fat. Hogs get Slaughtered" means those who work hard will get what they deserve but those who try to gain something for nothing will not get very far.

Um - no it doesn't. Hogs =/= those who try to gain something for nothing, and pigs certainly =/= people who work hard. Are pigs known for working hard? I must have missed that.

The expression means don't get overly greedy. If you're doing well enough (ie, are a pig), be content. If you get overly greedy, you'll get French Revolutioned.

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 08:20, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


I thought this would be tough for me to review at first, but I read it a bit and loved it :) Plus it is again one of yours in the queue since weeks. So here we go! Adding my comments in a week. Sainsf · (How ya doin'?) 08:20, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:15, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • No dablink or copyvio issues
Noted.
  • Duplink: Warner Brothers (Children)
Fixed.
  • External links: [1] is a dead link
Gone.
  • Sources and citations:
  • ISBN for refs 3, 5, 13?
Added ISBN or OCLC.
  • Refs 16, 26, 30 could be formatted better
The Bible verse is formatted by the specialised template. Done the others.
  • Link Qur'an in ref 25
Done.
  • How reliable is ref 18? Isn't it a blog?
From the British Library.
Okay, but are we sure this isn't troublesome .. like some sources in WP:RSP. For example The Guardian is reliable but not the associated blog. This isn't open to the public to edit anyhow they like hopefully. Sainsf · (How ya doin'?) 13:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No, the BL run their own learned and reliable blog and the public can't edit it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:34, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • How reliable is ref 30?
It's a reasonable source for a well-attested fact.
Prose and coverage
  • Link pork and Swindon in lead. May be sausage and steak too (in main text only sausage is linked so consistency needed)
Done.
  • You can link Medieval Germany instead of Medieval
Done.
  • Link archaeological site. Any links for Cato and Varro?
Done.
  • that the breeds of pig can be seen "the" does not fit here, may be say "many breeds of pig can..."
Reworded.
  • lop-eared, fat-bellied, and smooth breed I think "breed" is redundant. If at all it should be there "breeds" would be right
Reworded.
  • Introduce Benton Jay Komins, Peter Stallybrass and Allon White
Done.
  • In the image caption "with fat pig at lower right", it should be "a fat pig" or "a pig" more appropriately. In the first image too.
Done. Actually I find the shorter form entirely good for captions.
  • Link Melton Mowbray
Done.
  • The Nuremberg bratwurst is required to be at most 90 mm long and to weigh at most 25 grams Convert templates (one more instance in the next line, check for more)
Done.
  • In Early Modern times starting in 1614 "Early Modern" should be linked here not later. Also add "AD"
Done. I don't think 2019 needs to be marked for epoch.
  • The pig, and pork products such as mortadella were No comma at all or comma after mortadella
Done.
  • Not sure but may be the subsection headings in Literature could sound more like "For adults/children".. as it is it slightly gives the impression that it deals with pig-adult/children relations
We wouldn't want that now ... Done.
  • Link Hebrew (Literature)
Linked Hebrew language.
  • The coverage is excellent but has no mention of even the 19th century in Adults, any reason for that? Maybe the Children part can also be improved to add more on what may have happened in the last 20-ish years?
Added Thomas Hardy. I think we've covered 'the main points' on children's books, but I've added a new take on the three little pigs, which seems to sum up the current status rather well.


  • The pig has come to be seen as unacceptable to several world religions This line seems somewhat contradictory to this from the lead The eating of pork is forbidden in Islam and Judaism, but pigs are sacred in other religions, which makes it seem as if the pig is not accepted only in the two religions mentioned. Also this line Pigs have in contrast been sacred in several religions. Probably "several" makes it sound vague and confusing.
Now that the section is rearranged in 'for' and 'against' paragraphs I think this one is resolved.
  • Link and italicize sutra (and maybe add a few words on what it means like you have done for other foreign terms)
Linked, but as it's commonly used as an English word we don't need italics. The Sanskrit would be written sūtra.
  • I think Religion should be split into two paras clearly showing the acceptance/non-acceptance of the pig, so Varaha as already mentioned was the boar-headed avatar of Vishnu this should belong only in one para.
Good idea, done.
  • Similar names are found in other countries Sounds like we give preference to places in England first and group all other countries separately. This is okay only if say England had maximum number of places with such names, but Scandinavia seems to have way more.
Fixed.
  • in Scandinavia hundreds of places have names such as "Hundreds" sounds like a stretch, especially as in the cited source only around 60 names seem to start with "Svin-".
Fixed.

That should be it. Thanks for this interesting read :) Sainsf · (How ya doin'?) 02:59, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All changes look great. Just one point about the refs and we are done. Sainsf · (How ya doin'?) 13:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Replied above. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:34, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. All issues have been addressed and this is ready for promotion :) Sainsf · (How ya doin'?) 00:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay there's a tiny doubt.. where exactly do I list this in WP:Good articles/Natural sciences? Sainsf · (How ya doin'?) 00:44, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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