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Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2024

This is not a forum for discussing the topic, and we really don't care what TikTok influencers are saying. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 19:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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As a tiktok influencer pizzagate isn't only limited to people interested in dance moves or BLM if you search #pizzagate on tiktok and view the top and majority of the users profiles talking about it none if them relate to either of those so not sure why that was approved without research with an article like this. 2601:881:200:F770:4C34:6FBD:A090:FD22 (talk) 12:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because RS did. Slatersteven (talk) 12:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 14:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]