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Rename and refocus

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I would like to suggest that this article is renamed Poole Borough Council and reworded slighly to be about the council, in the style of Manchester City Council. As it stands, there is no geographical distinction between Poole and this article. MRSC (talk) 15:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's a support from me, per Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about districts. I would however push that all links to Poole (borough) be changed to Poole when discussing a place. --Jza84 |  Talk  20:19, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This has been completed. MRSC (talk) 13:30, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Borough of Poole or Poole Borough Council?

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"Borough of Poole" is the official and common name of the local authority so I don't fully understand your reasons for the page move. Plus there were a lot of incoming links from other articles which were supposed to link to an article about the council so I don't think it's correct to redirect Borough of Poole to Poole. Barret (talk) 13:14, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They are two different things, although they are often commonly used interchangeably. A borough is an area, a territory or a place. Somewhere that has defined boundaries. A local authority or a council is a body corporate. A meeting of Councillors and a building of administration. Do you see how they are different things? MRSC (talk) 13:20, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I understand that but as I said, in this case the local authority is named Borough of Poole [1] -- it is rarely called Poole Borough Council. It is more likely that when someone searches for the Borough of Poole, they are looking for the council rather than the actual "borough" or geographical area. Barret (talk) 14:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Borough of Poole" is the brand the council has chosen to put on the website and elsewhere, but the council is still called Poole Borough Council See here: [2]. This is common to many local authorities, it doesn't change the fact that a borough is territory of land and can never be a council which is a body corporate. However if there is potential for confusion the Poole article should have a hatnote and link clearly to the local authority in the opening paragraph. MRSC (talk) 14:33, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Even if that is correct, don't you think the common name for the council is Borough of Poole? Is there a guideline somewhere that suggests uniformity takes priority here? Barret (talk) 15:11, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The common name for the council isn't Borough of Poole. Many councils use the name of the locality to brand their services. Just like Greenwich London Borough Council uses the name "Royal Greenwich". But neither are the name of the council, common or uncommon. Don't you see the contradiction of having two articles Poole and Borough of Poole both claiming to be about the same thing i.e. the borough? Only relevant guideline is probably WP:UKDISTRICTS MRSC (talk) 15:18, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Back to district

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I propose changing this article's (and Bournemouth Borough Council) scope back to the district since its been abolished. @MRSC:. While the change may have made sense when the borough existed now that its been abolished I think we can have an article on the district without duplication problems like we have articles on county boroughs such as County Borough of Bury even though they were similar to the settlement. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:38, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't make any sense. Boroughs and councils are different things. MRSC (talk) 17:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The article was created about the district in 2008, it was re-scoped to be about the district council, now that the district has been abolished I'm suggesting re-scoping it back to be for the district since the duplication problems would probably not exist as much. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:38, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]