Talk:Pope Honorius II

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it doesn't appear that any of his papacy is covered on this page - only information prior to his papacy, providing an understanding of the state he inherited when he assumed power. Stevenmitchell 11:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Birth date[edit]

Infobox says he was born ca. 1036; no justification in the text; sources cited are ca. 95 and 125 years old; is there more recent research? Google search has 702 hits for him with the birthdate; some of this will be mirrors of wiki info; LC authority file does not have him--FeanorStar7 10:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recently, this birthdate was revised to February 1060, but this addition was unsourced. I have reviewed a number of recent sources, such as Philippe Levillain's The Papacy: Gaius-Proxies (2002) (pg. 731) and I too cannot find a birthdate for Honorius II, therefore I have removed it from the article. Oatley2112 (talk) 11:58, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Major revision[edit]

I have begun a major revamping and expansion of this article, and it should be ready in a few days. Please avoid editing this article until it is completed. Oatley2112 (talk) 12:01, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The introduction will be expanded soon. Oatley2112 (talk) 12:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who was canonically elected in 1124?[edit]

The principal author states that Theobaldus Buccapedus had been elected, enthroned, and that the Te Deum was being sung when the disorders began. Then he refers to Theobaldus as "the candidate". This is unacceptable. One does not get consecrated pope. That is bad terminology. One is elected, one accepts, one is enthroned, and one is pope. If the Electus is not yet a bishop he is consecrated before he is crowned. But, as with the Queen of England, you do not have to be crowned to enter office. Lambertus' election was uncanonical. Once a pope is canonically elected, it is schismatical to elect a second, and that is what the Frangipani tried to do in "acclaiming" Lambertus. One really has to consider Theobaldus a valid pope, who resigned. Vicedomino (talk) 03:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Source used by IP[edit]

This website The Hierarchy of the Catholic Church, was created by David M. Cheney, who is not a historian.[1] --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are editing against WP:CONSENSUS. Please see previous discussions at WP:RSN and WT:CATHOLIC as well as your user talk page. 98.176.128.60 (talk) 20:18, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong. There is no consensus for the usage of that website as a source. Per an Admin. Appears you need to take your opinion to the reliable sources noticeboard and get consensus. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:33, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why does one anonymous admin have anything to do with a content decision? 98.176.128.60 (talk) 23:25, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with content, it has to do with source reliability. Miss that part?

Why does an IP with no evidence, believe this so-called source has consensus as a reliable source? Clearly Doug Weller and Ealdgyth believe otherwise.[2] --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:48, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]