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Requested move 15 October 2016

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Although some support the move, and some opose it, I generally see a consensus that this article should be re-merged into Port Tobacco Village, Maryland, so that should go ahead and there's no point moving this in the meantime. Once that's done, this page can become a redirect. I will restore the redirect from Port Tobacco, Maryland to Port Tobacco Village, Maryland immediately.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:07, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]



Port TobaccoPort Tobacco, Maryland – Per WP:USPLACE, title should include the state name. Dough4872 03:21, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:USPLACE overrides WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it cannot and does not apply to US place articles - by default it can only be used to apply to WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:26, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
WP:USPLACE does not "override" WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.--Cúchullain t/c 16:28, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification yes - per Category:Unincorporated communities in Charles County, Maryland cannot see the need to split. So re-merge. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:59, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This is either the only use of Port Tobacco on WP, or the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per AjaxSmack. Either way, there is no need for disambiguating the name in the title. What about WP:USPLACE? WP:IAR because it's a silly, long, convoluted and totally unnecessary guideline. What USPLACE should do is reflect the underlying guideline for all articles on WP, including most other city articles: Use the plain unadorned common name of the topic (e.g., the current title, Port Tobacco) for the title unless the name is ambiguous and the topic is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for that name. --В²C 23:04, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support appending the state per WP:USPACE, and for consistency with practically every community in Maryland. What's a little unclear is whether two articles are needed and (if not) should it be at Port Tobacco, Maryland or Port Tobacco Village, Maryland.

    The USGS GNIS notes that the populated place in Maryland known as Port Tobacco was incorporated as Port Tobacco Village, and in both cases gives the location as the same small collection of homes at the north end of Chapel Point Road near Maryland Route 6, so geographically I'm not sure that distinguishing the two is necessary. The only distinction as far as the USGS is concerned seems to be that one feature is the general populated place and the other is the formal incorporation of that place.

    As to the creator's comment that sites like St. Ignatius Church and Rose Hill Manor are "within" the unincorporated community of Port Tobacco, such a community by definition has no legal boundaries, so the statement becomes subjective; they are, however, certainly in the vicinity. Title-wise, I favor re-merging to a single article at either Port Tobacco, Maryland or Port Tobacco Village, Maryland. ╠╣uw [talk] 15:33, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Good suggestion. ╠╣uw [talk] 09:16, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.