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Descendants of Elizabeth

I undid a change because Unless The Prince of Wales chooses to alter the present decisions when he becomes king, he will continue to be of the House of Windsor just means possibility. That is not a fact. But It was therefore declared in the Privy Council that The Queen's descendants, other than those with the style of Royal Highness and the title of Prince/Princess, or female descendants who marry, would carry the name of Mountbatten-Windsor is fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berfu (talk • contribs) 13:58, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

And Mountbatten comes from Prince Philip so all his children-not just Prince of Wales- will be effected.

It's irrelevant. The quote you've selected only applies to 'the Queen's descendants, other than those with the style of Royal Highness and the title of Prince', so that part of the page does not apply to George, and you applying it is original research by synthesis. The relevant part of the page that explicitly refers to George is lower down. DrKay (talk) 14:58, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

This is what I’m trying to tell you. Mountbatten-Windsor is for untitled members of the royal family. And you are adding that surname to everyone. Look here it is:

Any royal with the title "His Royal Highness Prince" or "Her Royal Highness Princess" doesn't need to use a surname at all. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/british-royal-family-surname-last-name-a7519901.html— Preceding unsigned comment added by Berfu (talk • contribs)

You have performed 4 reverts in 24 hours. You must either undo your last revert, or re-insert the missing information: British royalty do not usually use a surname, but when is needed the grandchildren of the Prince of Wales "will use the surname Mountbatten-Windsor". I have said multiple times that "British royalty do not usually use a surname". Straw man arguments about a point on which everyone is agreed is in my view disruptive. DrKay (talk) 15:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

You are completly missing most important section of sentence “when he becomes king“. He didn’t become one yet and when he become he can alter he present desicion or he will not (exact quote: Unless The Prince of Wales chooses to alter the present decisions “when he becomes king”...) what he will do in the future is just possibility. Prince George will become King George VII one day.(A lot of newspapers reported) But we are not writing This here now, do we? We can just write what currently in practice. Reference to: London Gazette, issue 41948, Feb. 8, 1960, p. 1/1003. See also the Times Feb 9, 1960 p. 10E. “My descendants other than descendants enjoying the style, title or attribute of Royal Highness and the titular dignity of Prince or Princess and female descendants who marry and their descendants shall bear the name of Mountbatten-Windsor." This is Elizabeth’s desicion which currently in practice. Prince George is a prince so no Mountbatten-Windsor for him. Royal page you are showing doesn’t refer him like that too. By the way I’m adding different facts and references. Those are legal documents.https://web.archive.org/web/20160423165659/http://www.heraldica.org/topics/britain/prince_highness_docs.htm#1960 If there is missing information I’m sure British Goverment would have fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berfu (talk • contribs) 16:11, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

No, I'm not. This is another straw man argument trying to attack a view I do not hold and am not espousing. It is clear that English is not your first language and neither the source nor I say what you think we're saying. DrKay (talk) 16:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

“When Charles become king” as you reference says he can do any change he want but now as article clearly states: For the most part, members of the Royal Family who are entitled to the style and dignity of HRH Prince or Princess do not need a surname, but if at any time any of them do need a surname (such as upon marriage), that surname is Mountbatten-Windsor. Why you are ignoring this information? I’m adding this sentence because now this is the way, so there will not be more confusion. You are trying to write future. Let’s wait what they will be called. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berfu (talk • contribs) 16:41, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm not ignoring the information. I have repeatedly and consistently expressed that view. If you edit the page again I will report you to the noticeboard for administrative action. Your behavior here is unacceptable, and while some of the misunderstanding comes from a language difficulty, that cannot explain all of it. DrKay (talk) 16:45, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Please can you tell me where can I report peoples? There should have been some anti-bullying preventions in here but I can’t find now. If you kindly show me where... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berfu (talk • contribs) 16:55, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

If you think it's very serious, try Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. However, if you're seeking a less serious route, try Wikipedia:Editor assistance. DrKay (talk) 17:08, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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