Talk:Prise d'Orange/GA1

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Reviewer: Daniel Case (talk · contribs) 18:34, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will be printing this article out and reading it over over the next few days/week, as I typically do, and probably doing a light copy edit since I don't think any GA nomination should fail purely on those grounds. I'll get back afterwards with my thoughts. Daniel Case (talk) 18:34, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. The copy edit was actually rather easy, not too much needed, and I really don't have a lot of non-copy issues to raise. It's a short article, one of the shortest GA candidate I've ever reviewed, but it seems like there's not too much to say about this chanson in the literature.

So my few things I'd like to know about or see addressed:

OK, good. Daniel Case (talk) 02:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is that whole list of the real Muslim leaders of Orange really necessary to demonstrate how Tibaut is fictional? At the very least it should probably be in an endnote rather than inline.
OK, good. Daniel Case (talk) 02:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • It might be nice in the plot summary to explain to us that Guielin is Guillaume's nephew, rather than have that come out of the blue in the next section.
Again, good. Daniel Case (talk) 02:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could we maybe explain inline what a hemistich is? I know it's linked ... but when you're reading this on paper that's of little use. Something like ", or half-lines," after it would do. And likewise with planctus in the next sentence. It's sort of like WP:EGG in reverse ... yes, we are writing an online encylopedia, but readers shouldn't have to keep clicking links for the most basic explanation of a technical term they may not understand and may not have previously come across. Put another way, it's not necessary that they read the entire article about these things to understand what they are for purposes of this article. Or so I think.
    • I think this takes care of hemistich and planctus. Doing this also helped me clarify the role of the hemistich; the original phrasing made it look as if hemistichs weren't pervasive, but in fact they're just the basic metrical unit of the poem. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:54, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK ... movin' right along here. Daniel Case (talk) 02:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • What are Madeline Tyssens's qualifications to speak about this work? She's not linked, so I assume she's not notable. I'd like to read something brief in apposition that assures me she's an expert on this sort of thing, as opposed to being, say, some blogger somewhere.
Good ... obviously we should have an article on her, but the French one leaves a lot to be desired as well. Daniel Case (talk) 02:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that's it ... You don't necessarily have to treat everything here as a punch list, bit I'd like to see some responses within the requisite week. I think it's fairly close to passing, but till then ...

 On hold

Daniel Case (talk) 07:32, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Daniel Case: Thanks for the review. I think I've addressed all the comments above. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:58, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alright ... we are all set!

(Taps article on both shoulders with mop handle)

Arise, good article! Daniel Case (talk) 02:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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