Talk:Proactiva Open Arms

Reactions to impoundment by Italian authorities[edit]

I think this section is unbalanced, it only states reactions against the impoundment, not reactions in favour of it. I would like to add those, if agreed upon. AntonHogervorst (talk) 12:32, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To add to this, there are seven lines in this article that are dedicated to the accusation by the Italian officials, and the rest is in favour of the organisation. Also the section 'Mediterranean search-and-rescue zone' contains a lot of information not directly linked to this organisation, but an opinion on the migrant crisis in general. In my humble view this article is unbalanced. I at least made it sound a little neutral now. AntonHogervorst (talk) 22:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AntonHogervorst: What sources do you have? And why did you duplicate the information about the Open Arms being impounded without checking to see what the result was? Doug Weller talk 14:17, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller:I would include cites of the Libyan maritime authority, the Italian authorities, Italian political parties etcetera. At this moment the section seems only to champion Open Arms actions, while many other opinions exist. The vessel was not confiscated out of blue air. Italian authorities are also investigating against Jugend Rettet e.g. About the edit and duplicate information, yes, I saw it was double later, but since that section is about the ship anyway, I thought some redundancy could not harm. I saw you did not agree and removed it, I have no problems with that removal. AntonHogervorst (talk) 14:45, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller: I am somewhat surprised by this though: "if you wish to edit the article in good faith", you doubt my good faith? What do you mean? AntonHogervorst (talk) 17:27, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AntonHogervorst: I mean that you should be looking for updates, and try to add balanced material. I note that Jugend Rettet doesn't have some of the material that the other language versions have, eg the 2017 research. the material in the German article's section "Verhaltenskodex und Ermittlungen", etc. I need to ask, did you copy anything from another language Wikipedia? Because I don't see any attribution given. Doug Weller talk 17:55, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller: I am not sure what you want to know, but well I speak Dutch, German and Spanish fluently, and because of the latter I can easily read French and Italian too. Sure I have read the other Wikipedia articles, and sources in Dutch, German and Italian. I've asked if I could refer to German sources in the English article, and that was no problem. AntonHogervorst (talk) 18:12, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anything you translate has to be attributed to the original article to avoid copyright violations. Doug Weller talk 18:14, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Now I am a little confused. The only thing I maybe 'translated' was from Dutch to English, but then I would be copying myself. I wróte the article in Dutch myself. After reading the Italian and German ones, sure, but the Dutch article is not a translation. The English one is, more or less. though not one on one. But as said I am translating myself there. I don't object to that, I give myself permission to translate my own article. But if you tell me how I can attribute to myself I am perfectly willing to do so. AntonHogervorst (talk) 18:23, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A judge stated, that Libya is not a safe place in terms of human rights and that the ship is allowed to leave. Ivan Camilleri: Migrant rescue ship released by Sicilian authorities. Times of Malta. Best regards from Germany--5glogger (talk) 18:39, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Funding[edit]

Who is funding this organization? Perhaps that could be added as it is for many other not for profit organizations.