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Requested move 15 January 2022

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. "The" is not needed neither it is a mandatory disambiguator. Please see Gambia national football team, Gambian nationality law, Gambia Regiment, Gambia Armed Forces (closed by non-admin page mover) TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 04:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Radio 1 FM (Gambia) → ? – I am unsure if (Gambia) is a proper disambiguator but wondering if the correct style for one with the definite article is (the Gambia) or (The Gambia)? Capitalization is inconsistent in other pages ([1]) and I cannot find an appropriate guideline. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 07:42, 15 January 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:04, 22 January 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 19:58, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Why are you sure that (Gambia) is not an OK disambiguator? Seems clear enough. Dicklyon (talk) 05:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Dicklyon The main issue is that The Gambia typically takes the definite article, but I could not find any guidance on the matter. I consulted existing guidance and discussions and could not find any precedent, and we have pages with varying usages among the 30 or so that use a disambiguator: State Intelligence Services (the Gambia), Chief of the Defence Staff (The Gambia), Denton Bridge (Gambia). Our article indicates, The Gambia is one of a very small number of countries for which the definite article is commonly used in its English-language name ... The article is also officially used by the country's government and by international bodies. The article was originally used because the region was named for "the Gambia [River]". In 1964, shortly prior to the country's independence, then-Prime Minister Dawda Jawara wrote to the Permanent Committee on Geographical Names for British Official Use requesting that the name the Gambia retain the definite article, in part to reduce confusion with Zambia which had also recently become independent. At present, both Gambia and the Gambia are in common use. One of the reasons for opening this discussion is to have a record of what the correct usage is so that people in this situation do not have to open one like I do to find out. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 08:39, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand what the main issue is, but my question was why are you sure if you don't have any guidance on it? Dicklyon (talk) 23:32, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That is fair @Dicklyon, and I will revise my statement to reflect that. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 06:47, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Follow-up moves of other disambiguated titles for consistency

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We still have around 10 articles using the disambiguator (Gambia), such as Basse (Gambia). Is it fair to say that the RM discussion above has established consensus that we should consistently use (The Gambia) as the disambiguator for these articles - such that they can just be boldly/technically moved? Or should they go through a multi-move RM? My view is the former, but I thought I'd check to see if anyone objects. Also pinging No such user who closed the MRV, in case they want to chime in. Colin M (talk) 17:01, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree that this constitutes a precedent for moving them all. Not that there are many, nor that they're particularly important articles. It's good to have consistency, particularly as there's no substantial reason to deviate – those are just disambiguators, anyway. No such user (talk) 17:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
...however: most of those come from Category:Local Government Areas of the Gambia, and should be distinguished from the towns they are named after... which are also in the Gambia. Thus, they need a different disambiguation scheme: Brikama (local government area) vs Brikama is good, but Kanifing (Gambia) vs. Kanifing District is not. No such user (talk) 17:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]