Talk:Ralph Basset

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August 7, 2010	Good article nominee	Listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the medieval English judge Ralph Basset earned a mention in the 1124 entry of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle for hanging 44 thieves?

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Reviewer: Courcelles 06:02, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see Miss Meyers wasn't the only short article you're working on. Well, it's short (redundant, I know) so this shouldn't take that long.

The article is excellent- I wouldn't expect anything less from you, but I do have a few points/question/comments. Do with them what you will.

It's become sadly rote, but the first thing I look at these days is the citations.

"New Haven, Conn" vs. "Baltimore, MD" vs. "Philadelphia" Consistency in the state abbreviations, please.
c.f. "Cambridge, UK" vs. "Cambridge"
Otherwise, the citations look fine
- All fixed Ealdgyth - Talk 12:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moving on:

Do we have a link anywhere that explains what a Royal Justice is?
- No, and I'm not motivated enough to write one... since it's really not much more than a judge appointed by the king at this stage in history. We're not always clear on what it was. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"a survey of the landholdings in the city of Winchester which took place between 1103 and 1115,[4] probably close to 1110." This sentence could do with some rewording- the date is uncertain, wheras right now it is ambiguous and could be read that the survey took 12 years!
- I've added "at some point" before "between 1103".. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"The medieval writer and chronicler Orderic Vitalis described Basset as one the new men of King Henry," Perhaps describe Vitalis as a contemporary, rather than a medieval writer? Comparing the articles, they were alive at the same time.
- Yeah, but lots of contemporaries, but few chroniclers at the time. If I say contemporary, it doesn't make it as clear that he was not just some common peer of Bassets writing, but something rarer. DId that make sense? (It's really early in the morning here.. ) Ealdgyth - Talk 12:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Basset's sons were Richard Basset..." this is awkward, since the sentence mentions two sons after this phrase, and then takes two more sentences before the reader realises Basset had four sons in total.
- Now reads "Among Basset's four sons were..." which hopefully is better. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doubtful that RB will go the FAC route. Unlike the horses, the obscure royal servants need a lot more context on the times to fill them out. Compare Urse d'Abetot when he passed GA and Urse as he passed FA. If I do up Ralphy, he'll fill out, I'm sure. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All looks good; though you're likely right about this encountering resistance at FAC. Passed.