Talk:Rams (card game)

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Bierspiel[edit]

The lede states that "in the German variety of the game called Bierspiel, the 7♦ is the second best trump ranking next below the ace." While this cites Parlett, he seems to be perpetuating an error from pre-war Hoyles that Bierspiel is the name of a variant of Rams. However, that is not, however, supported by any German sources AFAICS. Unsurprisingly because Bierspiel is just a generic word meaning "drinking game". Where the confusion has arisen, I suspect, is that numerous German sources include this game, which they variously call "Rammes", "Ramsch", "Ramschen", "Ramscheln", "Rhams" or "Rams", in lists of drinking games. One source even heads its rules as "Das Bierspiel Rammes" i.e. "The drinking game of Rammes". Bermicourt (talk) 22:13, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]