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Why "Ramón Martí" instead of "Ramon Martí", as his name is spelled in Catalan, Martí's language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.59.138.247 (talk) 17:22, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 July 2016

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The result of the move request was: moved as unopposed. (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 20:58, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]



Ramón MartíRaymond Martini – to reflect the commoner name in English sources. Details follow. This dude has a lot of names. The following are Google Books hits designed to tease out this person in English sources in order of frequency:

Raymond Martini + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 594 hits
Raymond Martin + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 512 hits
Ramon Marti + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 488 hits (includes hits with one or both acute accents; link to results for details)
Raymund Martini + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 357 hits
Raymundus Martini + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 339 hits
Raymund Martin + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 186 hits
Raimundus Martini + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 127 hits
Raymundus Martinus + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 92 hits
Raymond Marti + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 32 hits
Raymundus Martin + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 13 hits
Raymondus Martini + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 12 hits
Ramon Martini + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 12 hits
Ramon Martin + Pugio Fidei + Jewish: 11 hits
*Variants with fewer than 10 hits are not included. I may have missed a few.

"Raymond Martini" is the single most common spelling. "Martini" with various first names is far more common than "Marti/Martí" and a bit more common than "Martin". "Raymond/Raymund" is also far more common than "Ramon/Ramón" or "Raymundus/Raimundus". The current form with accents on both names is quite uncommon. Based on these results, I propose a move to Raymond Martini.  AjaxSmack  16:48, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed (by removing one of two sigs – please use only one sig when making a move request)  Paine  
Sorry. My bust. I was trying to avoid having the entire list of Google Books hits appear on the WP:RM page. I guess it doesn't work that way.  AjaxSmack  02:32, 14 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

"... and proves the falsity of..."

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About:

" ... and proves the falsity of the Jewish religion ..."

Doesn't Wikipedia's neutral-point-of-view policy require that we write not "proves," but "endeavors to prove"? Toddcs (talk) 17:12, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]