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Deletion

This is a pretty non-notable band, I would recommend deletion of this article, or at least a merging into an article covering such non-notable "underground bands"

well, they had a number one hit. that's fairly notable. and, please, sign your comments with ~~~~ in the future. -- frymaster 21:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

YES for deletion. As the article you wrote says Frymaster, a number one hit in the "UK Independant charts" after a previous single sold only 60,000 copies. No platinum, no gold, no nothing; that is not very notable. If you want to share independant bands, the Wiki software is GNU, make a wiki for independant bands, or check Wiki-Wiki for an already existent underground band Wiki.

NO, disagree, this group is an important example of the "John Peel"-ish musical movement in the UK, even appears on the John Peel compilation released last October, anything in that vein deserves to have a page where the curious can learn more about it.

No. Well, I just heard "Good Technology" played on national Radio in the UK, thought to myself "I must find out more about them", came straight onto Wikipedia and found this article - great! Surely Wikipedia doing what it is supposed to? Please don't delete. Zane Barrett 10:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NO for deletion.

I disagree strongly that the Red Guitars article should be deleted. The article fails to mention that the Red Guitars first album, Slow To Fade, also reached number one in the independent UK Charts. An analysis of the UK chart system in the 80's would reveal that the independent charts were a much better litmus for popular opinion back in the 80's as there lists were compiled by independent shops all over the country, whereas the main charts concentrated on sales from a handful of London stores, which were well known by the major labels who would purchase large amounts of stock of there own pressings from the right shops in order to chart highly (admittedly I cannot prove this). Red Guitars single Good Technology appeared in the John Peel compilation Right Speed, Wrong Time last year and a recent poll by the Hull Argus placed the Red Guitars at number 8 of the top ten bands to have come out of Hull. Why must we only consider musicians to be notable if they have corporate backing? If someone spent the time researching and writing this article and others have come here to read it then it certainly is notable: it has been noted. [Me (non-registered user) 10 July 2007 19:38]

Keep They were of course the "best band in Hull", according to Paul Heaton. That in itself should count as a WP:RS as to their notability 8-)
Andy Dingley (talk) 19:14, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Red Guitars were central to significant developments in Northern music, and influenced many. Including me. Still do. The whole was more than the sum of the musicians. Jas (talk) 22:00, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

please try an afd

look, if there is a legitimate concern that this article should not be here, the best way to go about it would be to do a proper afd as outlined in WP:AFD rather than prod tag warring. that way the community can work on achieving a consensus on its worthiness. sound good? -- frymaster 17:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The article is too short. It needs expansion and better citing. I confirm stub rating.--Yannismarou 09:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is start class rating. Citing and expansion is still an issue, but the historty section contains lots. However, I realize that you rated this this in January, and it is now March. Canadianshoper 21:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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