Talk:Religious views of Abraham Lincoln

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"Saviour of the world"[edit]

"We further say, that with however much care selections may be made, there will be some unfaithful and dishonest in both classes. The experience of the whole world, in all by-gone times, proves this true. The Saviour → of the world chose twelve disciples, and even one of that small number, selected by superhuman wisdom, turned out a traitor and a devil. And, it may not be improper here to add, that Judas carried the bag---was the Sub-Treasurer of the ← Saviour and his disciples."

The above quote is from a Lincoln speech about the Sub-Treasury, 12/26/1839, the text of which is found at http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=lincoln;cc=lincoln;type=simple;rgn=div1;q1=Saviour;singlegenre=All;view=text;subview=detail;sort=occur;idno=lincoln1;node=lincoln1%3A193#hl1. It's in the UMich "Collected works of Abraham Lincoln".

In this case, the Saviour of the world can only refer to Jesus.

never made a standard profession[edit]

Although there is no evidence that Lincoln became an official church member, his Christian profession was rather explicit in his writings and declarations: AbrahamLincolnOnline has collected a sample of these that makes the case clear http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/faithquotes.htm

Lincoln's 1864 account of his conversion and his profession "I do love Jesus" are about as standard a profession as one can ask for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilltoppers (talk • contribs) 22:56, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

the 1864 account of his conversion and his profession "I do love Jesus" first appeared in a sermon by a Wisconsin Baptist minister who never knew Lincoln. No one ever claimed to have heard Lincoln make such a statement. In his authentic statements Lincoln almost never mentions Jesus. See Paul F. Boller Jr, and John George They Never Said It: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, and Misleading Attributions: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, and Misleading Attributions (Oxford University Press, 1989.) p 91 looks at the evidence and concludes, "It is highly unlikely that Lincoln ever said anything like it." Rjensen (talk) 05:59, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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