Talk:Rhodesia

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Sorry. I’ve been looking for the demographics of Rhodesia bu found nothing. What ws the percentage of the white pupolation in 1965 and in 1978? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.31.18 (talk) 04:08, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

"self-government" in lede

Currently a sentence in the lede reads:

"Rhodes and his Pioneer Column marched north in 1890, acquiring a huge block of territory that the company would rule until the early 1920s. In 1923, the company's charter was revoked, and Southern Rhodesia attained self-government and established a legislature."

I'm wondering if we could modify "self-government" here. I know that this is the official/customary term here, but if you were coming into this article with no context you might take "self-government" to mean that the entire population was participating in the country's governance, when in fact it was only a small minority composed of European settlers. This is important because it sets the stage for the entire rest of the country's 20th century history. Would "and Southern Rhodesia's white minority attained self-government" or the like be appropriate? --Jfruh (talk) 18:47, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

The use of "self-government" is misleading. And White Supremacists are currently rallying behind nostalgia for this state, let's not help them. 47.217.109.142 (talk) 02:30, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

It would seem that the issue of self-governance has to do with not being governed by another country. The issue of who was doing the governing is properly a topic for inclusion in the article. BoonDock (talk) 12:49, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Unnecessary quotation marks

The quotation marks around the Phrases “incompetent insurgents” and "superbly professional government troop's” aren’t need, the PF forces where extremely incompetent and the Security Forces where extremely skilled and beat the PF in every battle during the bush war. To keep these quotation marks in useless. TheChadeditor (talk) 18:00, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

By the nature of insurgency, it is expected that insurgents will lose actual battles against nation-state forces. ForeverStainedWithAutism (talk) 22:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Article's Map

i hate to nitpick, but shouldn't this article's map show Sudan as a unified state? similarly to South West Africa's map. Dawnslayer (talk) 17:41, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

South Africa in the first paragraph

Why is South Africa called "Apartheid South Africa" at the end of the first paragraph as if it was country's official name? Wouldn't it be better to keep it at a neutral "...the other being the Union of South Africa"? 91.231.66.254 (talk) 17:51, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Agree on the naming front. However, the Union of South Africa came to an end in 1961, so linking to that is also anacrhonistic. Have corrected. Mangwanani ^(talk) 18:45, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Country area

Why is the stated area of Rhodesia 177 km² less that the stated area of Zimbabwe? Was there some sort of territory change/gain in 1980? --24.80.199.58 (talk) 13:47, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

• What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):

The music file for the anthem "God save the Queen" is named "God save the King.ogg" and the subtitles are also in the masculine form.

• Why it should be changed:

Since the anthem was removed in 1970, the music file with subtitles should match what the title accurately describes.

Additionally, the usage is inconsistent across the three pages "Rhodesia" "Southern Rhodesia" and "Rhodesia (1964-1965)", with two different music files and all subtitles in the masculine form. I also question (for lack of a better word) the Daseinsberechtigung of the article "Rhodesia (1964-1965)", but that may be due a different discussion. 2A02:8388:1AC6:E580:5905:A23A:8F00:9BA9 (talk) 00:35, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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