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Quest wikilink
The link of "Quest" shouldn't lead to a wiki regarding the show after Richard Quest, rather the term quest itself? -84.254.14.96
Daily Show May 8th 2007
Mr Quest was featured on the show as a counterpoint to the Daily Show's John Oliver regarding Queen Elizabeth II's visit to the US on the week of May 6th [1] Riidi 03:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
The arrest
I seriously do not understand why you include the arrest, but do not mention the fact that the "companion" was male. This has been mentioned in the news, so what's the big deal? If you have chosen not to include the arrest all together I would disagree but at least understand the logic. But this? I don't get it.
Agree with above. And have to say this story got here FAST!
Also, this story should include a reference to the rope tied around his neck and his genitals. Also, the sex toy found in his boot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.12.252.12 (talk) 04:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I added this, the rope, the genitals, and most important is the 6 months sentence rehab. plus one day in jail, almost. This might end his career. So readers of this article must be guided on this, if these things are not put in here, it will appear biased, so let us put all that was done to him. It is his quest for a guy and drugs. Hypocrisy so to speak. The police also found a rope around his neck, tied to his genitals, and a sex toy in his boot, near 64th Street. Quest agreed to undergo 6 months of drug counseling, resulting to "adjournment in contemplation of dismissal" of the misdemeanor charges. He was released by the Manhattan Criminal Court relea with no bail after having been incarcerated.[1] --Florentino floro (talk) 08:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
gay
Quest is openly gay. Put him into LMBT category. And seach google yourself, if you do not believe it, than asking me to do that and link the hits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.82.37.112 (talk) 06:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- You obviously haven't noticed that it's in the article already. Ty 09:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- The Guardian ref verifies it. Ty 23:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- The Guardian article does not verify it. It does not say "Quest is gay" or "Quest says he is gay". It's an article that isn't about him, only mentions him in that sentence, and only says that he turned down a position, with possible reasons for turning it down. A controversial statement requires impeccable references, and this is not one. I'm removing the content *again* until a reliable source can be found. FWIW, I believe he's probably gay, but whether that's true or not, there should be a good ref for it. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 03:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- The Guardian ref verifies it. Ty 23:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't see how you can dispute the reference. It's perfectly acceptable. The Guardian article says, "It was hard to recruit big-name presenters: Richard Quest of CNN said he turned down an offer on the grounds that being gay and Jewish might not be suitable." Do you have any way of reading this other than the fact that he is, er, gay and Jewish? But the wikipedia article didn't even say "he is gay" or "he is Jewish". It said, "Quest turned down a job offer from the English-language Al Jazeera channel, on the basis that being Jewish and gay he might not be suitable." This is a very accurate use of the reference. Ty 07:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- It's also a very roundabout and WP:WEASEL way of doing things. If he's gay, there should be a good reference that says so. And yes, I can read that sentence another way - he may have turned down the offer on those grounds, but those grounds may or may not apply to him. This article has been falling in to the same trap that Jodie Foster has - until and unless there's a reference where Quest says "I'm gay", by policy we're not supposed to label him as gay. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 14:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Are you kidding yourself here SatyrTN? Read it like this: The Guardian article says, It was hard to recruit big-name presenters: Richard Quest of CNN said he turned down an offer on the grounds that "being gay and Jewish might not be suitable", which was a direct quote from Quest himself. Do you really believe that The Guardian newspaper would print something like that without fear of a legal reprisal? Quest is Gay, and Jewish. Why do you reject that fact? Ask him yourself, but do not delete a basic fact, please.--andreasegde (talk) 00:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- I agree: "being Jewish and gay he might not be suitable", i.e. "he, being Jewish and gay, might not be suitable". There is no other way to read it. No trap. WP:WEASEL is irrelevant. He has said he is Jewish and gay. Ty 02:32, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- As I've stated above, find me a good ref. If it's true, there should be *plenty* of refs that state it unequivocally, rather than a one-off sentence in a news article that isn't even about him. Find the ref, then we'll put it in the article. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 03:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter whether it's about him or not. It's a reliable source. There is no requirement for multiple refs for information, only that the source is a reliable one. Ty 03:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- However: "He turned down an approach from al-Jazeera's English-language channel because he felt that being Jewish and gay made him unsuitable." The Times.[2] And an article about him. All OK now? Ty 03:43, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- "He was reportedly once offered a position for the English-language version of the controversial Al Jazeera network, but said he turned it down because being gay and Jewish, he didn't think it would be a good fit." The Australian.[3]. From New York Post.[4] Ty 04:02, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Why no mention of the Quest turning down a job with al-Jazeera? That's a basic fact, and it's not in the article.--90.146.214.190 (talk) 19:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Add it. Ty 02:14, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Richard Quest, in his professional life, only tries to do good in the world! He does not deserve this vicious personal character attack by Wikipedia, for all time. Remove the Personal Life section! It's 100% evil! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BryanStrome (talk • contribs) 00:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia Policy states "Wikipedia must not be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives". Thence, embarrassing references about him be arrested with drugs and sex toys have been removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BryanStrome (talk • contribs) 20:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
New York Post article
Looking at the edit history of this article, I see that the New York Post article has now been deleted as a source on at least three occasions by various editors. Has anyone provided any evidence to suggest that this article is NOT a reliable source and that a BLP issue has arisen? Spurious suggestions that it is "tabloidy" are insufficient to justify deleting cited text. DWaterson (talk) 23:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- We're looking for an informative and fair, but not salacious, account of events. Only NYP seems to consider certain aspects of note. You can take it to WP:BLPN if you wish. Ty 23:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Early Quest
Are there any photos of him before his cosmetic dental surgery?Lestrade (talk) 16:12, 23 July 2009 (UTC)Lestrade
Slander
Removed slander again, this sort of information only serves as a injury to character and has no factual value, as such it does not deserve to be on this site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.217.25 (talk) 12:27, 19 December 2011 (UTC)