Talk:Robin Cooke, Baron Cooke of Thorndon

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Liberal vs natural law[edit]

I don't think the term "liberal" is a useful description of the judicial style of Lord Cooke. It means different things to different people, and either implies a bias towards certain issues re gender and race etc, or suggests a laissez-faire approach to applying the law, neither of which are very well founded. Natural law is the closest I could think of, but what I really mean to indicate is that where legislation was silent on a particular issue, he was more enthusiastic than some about filling the gaps to resolve a case. Perhaps there's a jurisprudential term that does this better, but that doesn't carry the pejorative sense and constitutional context of "judicial activism". --Tirana 01:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've always thought the "judicial activist" was unfair on President Cooke with respect to the Lands case, it was Parliament that invented the term "Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi" and passed an unclear statute. To complain that Cooke was an activist because he simply stated principles Parliament didn't bother to enumerate in law seems unfair. Natural law - in terms of natural justice - seems to be a much better term for it. --Lholden 01:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. There's a spectrum of natural law. There's a big difference between filling in the gaps and stretching the gaps as wide as you can to encompass new ideas. Justice Thomas (otherwise known as Justice Thomas Dissenting) was closer to the latter in Quilter and Ruka than Cooke ever got. The scope for judicial activism in a country with no supreme constitution is limited, anyway. --Tirana 02:58, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hah, looks like someone's been using this page for their research: Dominion Post obituary 1 September 06. I don't suppose it's plagiarism under the GDFL, but it doesn't comply with WP:Cite :-) --Tirana 21:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His farewell from the Privy Council[edit]

People wishing to add to the page may be interested in my transcript (from [2002] 2 NZLR 586) of part of the farewell speech by Lord Bingham of Cornhill: about halfway down on http://www.webspawner.com/users/robinp5/ --Robin Patterson 06:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]