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The Decline of Rock Section[edit]

That (very hopeful) list of still popular rock acts should be removed. It contradicts the premise of the section. A person with no knowledge of rock music would come away thinking it was still very popular (it's not). Rock music is virtually dead with most young people. Even those that enjoy it are fans of older bands like Queen or The Beatles. Many of the bands listed like Imagine Dragons can barely be called rock (it doesn't sound like rock to me) and others stopped having hits in 2010. Green Day (whom I'm a fan of) has not had a hit single since 2009. Their last album didn't sell well. I think the article needs to acknowledge that rock music ceased being popular music in 2010 despite the occasional hopeful sign signs.Fdog9 (talk) 14:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In the presence of sources such as Spin, Billboard, Pitchfork, Loudwire and others listing the sucessful rock acts of today, I would say that removing cited text isn't a good idea. It's not the end of the world to have one paragraph saying rock is dead, followed by another paragraph listing the exceptions. Binksternet (talk) 15:21, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You're right--- it's not the end of the world and I'm not going to fight it ---but it isn't completely accurate. Acts like Tool and Green Day aren't popular with people under 40 and are really primarily 90's groups (or even the early 2000's). Other acts listed aren't really rock unless you really stretch the definition of rock. Rock was so popular for 60 years that of course a few acts here and there will incorporate the sound, but it's not the sound of the future (sadly to me). I hope I'm wrong. Fdog9 (talk) 15:05, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, the article talks about the rock music genre, its birth and evolution. The term popular does not necessarily refer to the popularity of the genre but to its style and origin. There is no denying that rock has been a very important musical genre worldwide and to this day continues to have its role in society, it is also a genre that has evolved in multiple ways and has given birth to new genres and influenced other more recent ones. It has earned an important place in the history of music. I don't think it would be wise to dispense with it just like that. AteneaZ3 (talk) 10:20, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline of cultural relevance in the lead[edit]

Following User:Teflon Peter Christ's reversion of my edit to the lead, I've tried a different rephrasing of the point about rock's status in the 2010s/2020s. I feel that the claim of a "decline in cultural relevance" is quite subjective (relevant to whom? in what culture?), and while this is supported by sources, these sources are themselves think-pieces, opinions. I also didn't like the overly USA-centric nature of the phrasing, and I'm not sure that the specific point about hip-hop being more popular travels across the world in quite the same way. I've tried to rewrite that paragraph to avoid too much editorialising, to show that rock is sharing the pop music ground with other genres much more. Happy for it to be reworked, but I don't feel a revision to the previous phrasing is a particularly satisfactory outcome either. Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 09:38, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the entire article Western-centric, since that's been the breeding ground for the dominant rock acts? 𝒮𝒾𝓇 𝒯𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑜𝓃 (talk | contribs) 05:35, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Influence of Texas in Rock Music[edit]

Some people like to cite Clevand, Ohio as the birthplace of Rock but they are evidently wrong. Rock music was founded in Houston, TX by a man like Goree Carter. Trenchcoatjohn (talk) 17:20, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No one person, or one city "founded" the genre. Carter is mentioned in the article, as is Cleveland. And many other places, and many other people. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:47, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Texas founded the genre... Clevand likes to take place but Goree Carter created it. Check your facts. Trenchcoatjohn (talk) 04:22, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]