Talk:Román Oyarzun Oyarzun
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of interest to specific audience tag
[edit]Have removed the "interest to specific audience" tag. I think history is one of the most popular topics searched on WP, there are few subjects of WP which are of more of interest to "general audience" than history (like entertainment, sports, celebs, politics). But this is not the point. The point is that there are no quantitative criteria as to what makes an article "of interest to specific audience" and "excessively detailed"; hence, the decision is made on a relative basis. And this is where some minimum consistency when gauging what is „of interest to specific audience” is needed.
I have compared this article to a number of others, presented on the WP front page as featured articles, „the best articles Wikipedia has to offer”, having in mind the question of „excessive detail”, „inclusion policy”, „relevant information” and „interest to specific audience”. Most of these featured articles are double and some are almost triple the size of Oyarzun, almost all (perhaps except Poulens) refer to hardly known subjects and contain passages hardly understandable to anyone not familiair with the area in question. Please note that I am not comparing the Oyarzun article to any non-tagged article. I am comparing the Oyarzun article to „the best Wikipecia has to offer”, the cream of the cream. These featured articles demonstrate how a good WP article should look like. And I would invite you to inspect these articles, gauge their level of detail and reflect whether extensive passages from these articles are of interest to general audience.
I do not expect to get the Oyarzun article splashed on the front page as a featured one and „the best WP has to offer”, which would probably indeed require a lot of polishing. What I expect is applying some minimum consistency. Please note that I do not object to inserting detailed information quoted below in featured articles; actually, I enjoyed this „excessive detail” about pyjamas, magnetic flux and rococo divertissements; it was both a pleasure and an informative experience to read that sort of entries even though I do not belog to a „specific audience” which developed interest in 12th-century history of Scotland, US basketball, Yugoslav army dispositions, sub-breeds of metal rock or properties of stellar photosphere. This is fine with me. But I am uneasy about splasing as a featured article a 4,400-word entry on a North American basketball player (one of hundreds already in WP) and tagging a 3,100-word article on perhaps one of the 3 best known historians of a 200-year-old political movement.
title | day featured | subject | no. of words (about) | excessive detail? |
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Donnchadh, Earl of Carrick | April 19, 2017 | 12th century Scottish magnate | 6,100 | There are records of patronage towards the nunnery of North Berwick, a house founded by Donnchadh's probable maternal grandfather or great-grandfather Donnchadh I of Fife |
King Kalākaua's world tour | April 16, 2017 | first world-round tour of a monarch | 8,300 | Kalākaua got to inspect the troops during military maneuvers at the Schmelz parade grounds. He later had an audience with Archduke Albrecht, Duke of Teschen. In the evening, he returned to the opera house for a performance of Mozart's The Marriage of Figaro |
Margaret Lea Houston | April 11, 2017 | wife of a Texas governor | 5,100 | She was buried in the ground beside Nancy's tomb at 11 p.m. by her servant Bingley, family friend Major Eber Cave, and her two daughters Nettie and Mary Willie |
Noel Park | April 10, 2017 | neighborhood in London | 5,400 | many of the smaller fourth- and fifth-class houses, the doors were aligned at right angles to the façade of the house, so as not to open directly adjacently to their neighbours |
7th Army (Kingdom of Yugoslavia) | April 6, 2017 | Yugoslav military formation | 6,000 | the 1st Border Regiment and an independent border battalion, supported by one border artillery battalion fielding three batteries, in the sector of Mountain Detachment Rišnajaski |
Courtney Love | April 2, 2017 | celebrity | 8,000 | Love wore a satin and lace dress once owned by actress Frances Farmer, and Cobain wore green pajamas |
Juan Manuel de Rosas | March 30, 2017 | 19th-century Argentinian politician | 6,862 | The gauchos were tolerated because there was no other labor force available, but were treated with contempt by the landowners |
Death on the Rock | March 06, 2017 | TV documentary episode on IRA-related shooting [not the shooting itself] | 6,400 | He explained to the journalists that, had Savage's white Renault contained a substantial bomb, the weight would have been evident on the vehicle's springs |
Viking metal | March 01, 2017 | breed of music | 7,400 | He contends that this attack was merely an opportunistic raid, not a concerted attack on the growing power of Christianity, and that the terms "heathen" and "pagan" historically did not necessarily mean "anti-Christian", but that the people in question did not fit under a denominational label |
Theodore Komnenos Doukas | Feb 25, 2017 | Greek 11th c. ruler | 7,600 | In 1217, Stefan II tried to circumvent this by suggesting himself as the groom to Theodora's half-sister Maria, but Chomatianos vetoed this proposal as well on similar grounds |
Epsilon Eridani | February 14, 2017 | star | 6,400 | The magnetic properties can be modelled by assuming that regions with a magnetic flux of about 0.14 T randomly cover approximately 9% of the photosphere, whereas the remainder of the surface is free of magnetic fields |
Cliff Clinkscales | Feb 6, 2017 | basketball player | 4,400 | In the Florida Christian Athletic League's south quarterfinals, he posted 40 points and 14 assists to beat Ocala Word of Faith by a 100–32 margin. In the district title contest, he put up 26 points, 15 assists, six rebounds, and three steals” |
Rogue River (Oregon) | Jan 9, 2017 | river | 8,900 | The postmaster named the office Agnes after his daughter, but a transcription error added an extra "s" and the name became Agness |
Francis Poulenc | Jan 7, 2017 | French composer | 8,400 | They are early examples of Poulenc's many and varied influences, with echoes of rococo divertissements alongside unconventional harmonies, some influenced by jazz |
Clinton Engineering Works | Jan 6, 2017 | US production installation contributing to Hiroshima bomb | 8,400 | The next day, Under Secretary of War Robert P. Patterson authorized the acquisition of 56,000 acres (23,000 ha) at an estimated cost of $3.5 million |
--Dd1495 (talk) 16:05, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- I think a major problem with this article is that many references (if not most) are from Oyarsun himself : Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary. CaféBuzz (talk) 10:44, 24 February 2024 (UTC)