Talk:Royal Medal

To do

1826-2006

• Complete the list
• Check all names link to correct articles
• Try to correct red links
• Check award mentioned in all articles
• Start stubs on red links, and mention award

• Also, check William Henry Perkin, which redirects to William Perkin.

1925 award would be posthumous here, or to a different William Henry Perkin. The 1879 one is probably the correct Perkin. Carcharoth 17:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The Royal Society database of Fellows reveals that there is a William Henry Perkin who received the Royal Medal in 1925 who is the "Son of Sir William Henry Perkin (FRS 1866)" Scottkeir 14:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Mystery solved! Thanks. Carcharoth 15:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Found William Henry Perkin, Jr., have changed the "chemist" links to point there. Will fix the other ones to point to the right places. Carcharoth 16:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

• Awards completed and checked from start to 2006. All blue links should now be pointing to the correct people. Red links were checked and some redirects or spelling changes turned them into blue links to the right articles. Remaining red links (as of this date) probably need articles. In case they are turned blue by others creating articles about random American football players (say), I'm going to list the red links below. Not all permutations of redirects involving first and middle initials have been created. This is something that should be done. Also, the list should be double-checked with the Royal Society's list, as a few of them in this article are in the wrong order, and some silent correction of spelling or expanding of names has taken place. Carcharoth 01:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Red links

If these turn blue, please check they are linking to the right articles. Dates in brackets are the dates the links turned blue.

• Martin Barry (21 April 2008)
• Thomas Snow Beck (21 April 2008)
• George Fownes (21 April 2008)
• Charles James Hargreave (28 October 2007)
• Albany Hancock (26 October 2007)
• J. R. Robinson (eventually discovered John Thomas Romney Robinson - 11 January 2003)
• John Peter Gassiot (5 August 2007)
• Archibald Smith (5 November 2007)
• Augustus Matthiessen (20 April 2008)
• Thomas Maclear (2 February 2006, many sources, including the Royal Society website, mis-spell this as "Thomas Maclean")
• Henry John Carter (24 April 2008)
• Thomas Anderson (chemist) (9 September 2007)
• John Allan Brown (was a mis-spelling of John Allan Broun, created 22 April 2008)
• John Hewitt Jellett (29 October 2007)
• W. H. Flower (article created on 23 July 2004, redirect created 11 April 2007)
• "J. A. Hirst" (was a typo for Thomas Archer Hirst, created 15 December 2007)
• "Henry Nottidge Maseley" (was a typo for Henry Nottidge Moseley, created 15 June 2006)
• Thomas Edward Thorpe (13 February 2008)
• Arthur William Rucker (27 April 2008)
• Walter Gardiner (27 April 2008)
• William Carmichael McIntosh (27 April 2008)
• Alfred George Greenhill (11 May 2007)
• Ramsay Heatley Traquair (18 July 2007)
• George Chrystal (31 October 2007)
• William Mitchinson Hicks (27 April 2008)
• Harold Baily Dixon (27 April 2008)
• Hector Munro Macdonald (18 December 2007)
• John Aitken (scientist) (25 June 2007)
• Thomas Lewis (cardiologist) (28 April 2008)
• Robert Muir (turned blue 2 August 2008 as politician article, replacement, Sir Robert Muir, created 14 October 2008)
• William Henry Lang
• Ernest Laurence Kennaway
• James Gray (zoologist) (1 August 2007)
• Frederick Gugenheim Gregory
• Roy Cameron
• Herbert Harold Read
• Francis William Rogers Brambell
• Henry Charles Husband
• Joseph Hutchinson
• Gilbert Roberts
• Percy Edward Kent
• James Learmonth Gowans
• Roderic Alfred Gregory
• Vernon Ellis Cosslett
• Ralph Riley
• Marthe Louise Vogt (10 November 2007)
• Daniel Joseph Bradley
• Alexander Lamb Cullen
• Eric James Denton
• Winifred M. Watkins
• Rodney Hill
• Eric H. Mansfield
• Sivaramakrishna Chandrasekhar
• Robert J. P. Williams
• Geoffrey Eglinton
• Donald Hill Perkins
• Ricardo Miledi
• Donald Charlton Bradley
• John Frank Davidson
• Patrick David Wall
• Geoffrey Burnstock (30 August 2007)
• Keith Usherwood Ingold
• Suzanne Cory (9 April 2007)
• Ray Freeman
• Kenneth L. Johnson
• John Skehel
• David Baulcombe (28 May 2007)
• James Feast
• Tomas Lindahl
• William Henry Perkin, Jr. (6 October 2006)

Added by Carcharoth 01:17, 8 February 2007 (UTC) (and updated at various points thereafter)

Progress - 17 of about 71 had been created by this point, after about 9 months. Carcharoth (talk) 00:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Further progress' - 36 of about 71 had been created or found by October 2008, after about 20 months. Of the pre-1956 era (when only two medals were awarded each year), only 6 redlinks remain (of 273 entries), compared to 29 redlinks (of 132) for the post-1955 era. Carcharoth (talk) 02:01, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Just to point out: I'm currently working (in my Sandbox, since many of my experimental changes would've been disruptive to the article) on getting it up to Featured List standard. How is it nobody has noticed that the lead para is one massive copyright violation? Ironholds (talk) 09:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Apologies for missing that (as I've said elsewhere - at the FLC nomination). Thanks for clearing that up and for adding the rationales and turning the remaining redlinks blue (though 23 one-liners remain to be expanded). There are other points I raised at the FLC that should be raised here after the nomination closes, and I'll try and do that over the next few days. Carcharoth (talk) 09:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Number of awards and muitple winners

Copied from Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Royal Medal

My calculations indicate that from 1826 to 2008 inclusive (183 years), the awards as a whole (i.e. each set of awards for a year, whether one, two or three awards, counting once) have been awarded 181 times (i.e. there were two years when the awards were not made - 1831 and 1832). The total number of medals awarded (i.e. including people who have received more than one Royal Medal) between 1826 and 2008 is 405. There are also 39 cases where people with the same surname received a Royal Medal. Once I've tracked those down (some are different people with the same surname) I'll list them here or on the talk page. That will also give a figure for the number of people awarded the Royal Medal. If this is all too trivial, please feel free to leave it out or relegate to a footnote. I think the number of years (i.e. age of the award) and the number of medals awarded, and the people who have won it more than once, are notable. The copyvio text you removed (it was from the Royal Society website) mentioned that several Nobel Prize winners have recieved the award. Whether you want to mention that or not, I don't know. Carcharoth (talk) 09:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Multiple and possibly related winners

• Barlow - Harold Barlow (1988) and Horace Barlow (1993)
• Bradley - Daniel Joseph Bradley (1983) and Donald Charlton Bradley (1998)
• Brown - Horace Tabberer Brown (1903) and Ernest William Brown (1914)
• Chandrasekhar - Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar (1962) and Sivaramakrishna Chandrasekhar (1994) - POSSIBLY RELATED
• Clarke - Jacob Lockhart Clarke (1864) and Alexander Ross Clarke (1887)
• Darwin - Charles Darwin (1853) and George Darwin (1884) and Charles Galton Darwin (1935) - FATHER, SON AND GRANDSON
• Davidson - Thomas Davidson (1870) and John Frank Davidson (1999)
• Edwards - George Edwards (1974) and Sam Edwards (2001)
• Faraday - Michael Faraday (1835) and Michael Faraday (1846) - SAME PERSON? - Same person, per ODNB at [1] "the society showed its esteem for his work by awarding him its Copley medal twice (1832, 1838), its royal medal twice (1835, 1846), and its Rumford medal (1846), as well as naming him Bakerian lecturer on five occasions (1829, 1832, 1849, 1851, 1857)" DuncanHill (talk) 03:55, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
• Fisher - Ronald Aylmer Fisher (1938) and Michael Fisher (2005)
• Fowler - Alfred Fowler (1918) and Ralph Howard Fowler (1936)
• Graham - Thomas Graham (1838) and Thomas Graham (1850) - SAME PERSON?
• Gregory - Frederick Gugenheim Gregory (1957) and Roderic Alfred Gregory (1978)
• Hardy - G.H. Hardy (1920) and William Bate Hardy (1926)
• Herschel - John Herschel (1833) and John Herschel (1836) and John Herschel (1840) - SAME PERSON?
• Hill - Archibald Vivian Hill (1926) and Robert Hill (1963) and Rodney Hill (1993)
• Hodgkin - Dorothy Mary Crowfoot Hodgkin (1956) and Alan Lloyd Hodgkin (1958)
• Huxley - Thomas Henry Huxley (1852) and Hugh Esmor Huxley (1977)
• Ingold - Christopher Kelk Ingold (1952) and Keith Usherwood Ingold (2000) - FATHER AND SON
• Ivory - James Ivory (1826) and James Ivory (1839) - SAME PERSON?
• Jeffreys - Harold Jeffreys (1948) and Alec Jeffreys (2004)
• Jones - Harold Spencer Jones (1943) and Owen Thomas Jones (1956)
• Lewis - Thomas Lewis (1927) and Wilfrid Bennett Lewis (1972) and Jack Lewis (2004)
• Milne - John Milne (1908) and Edward Arthur Milne (1941)
• Newport - George Newport (1836) and George Newport (1851) - SAME PERSON?
• Richardson - John Richardson (1856) and Owen Willans Richardson (1930)
• Robinson - John Thomas Romney Robinson (1862) and Robert Robinson (1932)
• Smith - Archibald Smith (1865) and Grafton Elliot Smith (1912) and John Maynard Smith (1997)
• Thomson - William Thomson (1856) and Charles Wyville Thomson (1876) and Joseph John Thomson (1894) and George Paget Thomson (1949) - LAST TWO ARE FATHER AND SON
• Wheatstone - Charles Wheatstone (1840) and Charles Wheatstone (1843) - SAME PERSON?
• Wilkinson - Denys Wilkinson (1980) and Geoffrey Wilkinson (1981)
• Williamson - Alexander William Williamson (1862) and William Crawford Williamson (1874)

Above list to be updated shortly. Please note that it is a working document and not intended for the main list. The only things that might be needed for the main list are cases where the same person won the award more than once, and where father and son (or mother and daughter) won the award. Unrelated people mustn't be mentioned, as this would be pure trivia. Carcharoth (talk) 09:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Six times when someone won the award again. One person did so three times (John Herschel). Hence, from 1826 to 2008, there have been 405 medals awarded to 399 people. Carcharoth (talk) 12:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Royal Society website architecture

Noting here that the Royal Society seem to have changed their website architecture (again). This means that the links and sources in the current version of the list no longer work, simply dumping those who click on them on the Royal Society's main page. The link needed is http://royalsociety.org/awards/royal-medal/ and the list of awards and citations is now a scrollable inset something at the bottom of that webpage. Carcharoth (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah; I've fixed some of it, and will get round to the rest when I have a free moment. Ironholds (talk) 12:55, 8 August 2011 (UTC)