Talk:Russell Howarth/GA2

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Big Dom 17:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
When I first reviewed the article, the prose was not up to GA standards but after thorough copyediting from myself, User:Mattythewhite and User:Brad78 I think it is good enough now. The article doesn't contain jargon or unencyclopaedic terms as sports articles tend to, which is good. The lead section summarises the article well, taking the main points from each section, and the layout of the article is generally good. Lists and fiction are not applicable here.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
A very well-referenced article, with well over 100 cites. Every claim likely to be challenged is sourced, which is always nice to see. No problems at all with the quality of references; club websites, newspapers and books are all reliable sources. Definitely free of original research.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
All the major (and minor) points of Howarth's football career are covered in the article. I think there is a tendency to go into slightly too much detail in parts, but not so much as to detract from the quality. It appears as though his time at York is covered in more detail than his spells at Tranmere and Bradford, but this is natural given the sources available to the author.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
I know that the main author of the article is a York City fan so it is good to see that any possible bias has been avoided.
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
No problems here; as far as I can see there hasn't been even a hint of an edit war in the four and a half years since the article was created.
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
While it would have been nice to have a picture of Howarth to illustrate the article, I know as well as anyone how difficult it can be to find suitably-licensed images of footballers. Anyway, it is not essential for a GA to contain images so it isn't really an issue.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
I'm happy that following the work done on the article since the start of this GA review has raised the article to Good Article standard. Going to pass this one.

The article desperately needs a thorough copy-edit. I've done a couple of paragraphs myself but I'll leave it on hold for seven days for someone else to do the rest. Big Dom 18:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have to say I would've appreciated being dropped a line saying the article had been reviewed, rather than finding out on my own accord a day later. Anyway, I'll have another go at copy-editing soon, but do you think it would be wise for me to make an appeal for a fresh pair of eyes to take a look at it? Mattythewhite (talk) 10:38, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the lack of message, left a note on your TP. Big Dom 11:46, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just given it a copyedit, whether it's quite enough I don't know. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Much better, I'll just have a quick look through the article now to see if you've missed anything. Big Dom 09:34, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we got there in the end, and I'm happy to pass this one now. Congrats, Big Dom 19:19, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks for the review! Mattythewhite (talk) 20:21, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]