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Russian Conquest of Chechnya and Dagestan[edit]

I would prefer this title that has been popularized in literature, with Murid War as a second name. Thoughts? Machinarium (talk) 09:36, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The name was chosen by Baddeley who remains the best English historian. Gammer repeated his work and could not do better. Instead of a rename it might be better to give it a double title and make Russian Conquest a redirect. Like Potato War, Winter War and War of Jenkin's Ear, Murid War has a certain appeal. Benjamin Trovato (talk) 00:06, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

From Gammer's extensive footnotes it appears that there was no general history of the war in a European language up to Gammer's book in 1994. Gammer's and Baddeley's notes show a very large nineteenth century literature in Russian. A modern account in Russian would be difficult for political reasons.Benjamin Trovato (talk) 04:09, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Whole article should be rewritten[edit]

Too much bias in here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archivarius Prudentiam (talk • contribs) 10:44, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The title of the article is problematic[edit]

The expression "Murid War" is reductive. It omits the period of hostilities before 1829, in particular Aleksey Yermolov's policy of genocide. It is also discriminatory because it tends to overshadow the national-liberating character of the East Caucasian struggle. Deniev Dagun (talk) 09:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]