Talk:SS Dongola

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Did you know... that one hundred years ago, Frank William North brought his congregation home from Russia on the SS Dongola (pictured)?

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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:40, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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SS Dongola

~~... that F. W. North brought his flock home from Russia one hundred years ago on the Dongola (pictured)?~~
Source: Nikolai Tolstoy, The Tolstoys (Hamish Hamilton, 1983), pp. 338–339

Reviewed:
(1) 1st Missouri Infantry (Confederate)
(2) Coal in Turkey

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 03:10, 24 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Both articles are detailed, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed and a pretty illustration. In the ship article, I see to many images, and too far away from their context. I suggest to drop a few, and for those still away from context, write more caption to make the connection easier. In the person article, I miss an infobox. Hook: I know you like it short, but why not the full name of Rev. North? Is it just my lack of English that "flock" looks ambiguous, unless you tell us as that he was a clergyman. I looked for sheep ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:40, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the review, Gerda Arendt. I have added an infobox and also improved the captions. Do you prefer this Alt? NB, “congregation” is from the Latin word for flock, grex, gregis. Moonraker (talk) 03:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alt1 ... that Frank William North brought his congregation home from Russia one hundred years ago on the Dongola (pictured)?
Source: as above
Same thing:

Alt1a: ... that one hundred years ago, Frank William North brought his congregation home from Russia on the Dongola (pictured)?

Thank you for all! Another little accessibility improvement would be to us <br />, because our editor gets confused by the other. Infobox for Wylie, perhaps? - I like this hook much better, if we want to be fair to him, and avoid the impression that he is a shepherd. Another way to say that flock doesn't mean sheep here would be to add something about his position, but I'd understand not to get to religion first thing. I suggest to get the anniversary to the front. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:15, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More info could be added...[edit]

... from Frank William North. This article does not mention that his congregation was aboard the ship. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 17:18, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Espagne[edit]

Are we sure that it was the Belgian cargo ship which was involved in the 1915 collision and not the French ocean liner, the French cargo ship or another Belgian cargo ship? Mjroots (talk) 17:57, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]