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Merging with sai ua

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@Paul 012: can you provide some context that the merger was controversial? Like I mentioned in my edit note, when looking up basic sources on a search engine, most English sources equated sai oua and sai ua. The ingredients listed also appeared the same except for the addition of curry paste. The Lao sausage article also listed sai ua as an alternate spelling of sai oua. Both articles were extremely similar. I agree the article title Lao sausage is vague, but the article appears to be about sai oua/sai ua specifically, which is why I merged it there. If these are not the exact same sausage, one is a slight variant. Considering both articles were also stubs, merging them seemed appropriate. Pingnova (talk) 21:32, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sai oua and sai ua are simply different romanisations of the same name, which is the name of the sausage found in northern Laos, northern Thailand, and Myanmar's Shan State. The preparation is essentially the same, though the regional variants feature slightly different flavours: the Thai sources I found describe the Luang Phrabang version as less heavy on spice than Lanna's.[1] The main issue here, however, is the article title. While sai oua / sai ua is the name found throughout the three countries where the dish is found, Lao sausage is specific to Laos only, so it would be inappropriate to merge content about the variants found in Thailand and Myanmar to that title. For a merge to be considered, it would have to be with sai oua or sai ua as the target, and the article will need to be entirely rewritten not to present either country as the owner of the dish. (And even then, it's still bound to incite nationalistic edit wars.) Just cutting and pasting one into the other as you did is clearly not the way to go. --Paul_012 (talk) 22:02, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree the page title should be changed to the actual name of the sausage (sai oua). My merging the article content was about unifying the subject of the article, not judging the article title or the content of the pages themselves. I would support re-merging the content and changing the article title to sai oua. I also agree the content needs to be edited for perspective, but I think first the content needs to be merged since two articles are not needed for one sausage. Pingnova (talk) 22:08, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've nominated the page to be moved to Sai oua at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Uncontroversial technical requests to resolve the page name issue. Pingnova (talk) 22:21, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Lithopsian: we agreed that sai oua and sai ua are the same sausage and are simply different spellings, the objection was to the article title, which I changed to be more accurate. @Paul 012: I'm interested in your opinion since the page title was changed. Pingnova (talk) 21:25, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If there is agreement between the two of you, I'm not going to argue against it. It didn't appear that there was complete agreement for the merge though, at the time that I reverted, just agreement on renaming Lao sausage. Lithopsian (talk) 21:34, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have time for a closer look right now, but I'd suggest adding merge suggestion tags and waiting a few days to see if there are further comments. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:25, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Paul. I added the merge templates. It should be noted I already integrated the content from sai ua into sai oua prior to the revert, so there will be a lot of duplicated content when reviewing the pages. I did not do any source verification so outstanding issues for both articles remain. Pingnova (talk) 09:31, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]