Talk:Saint Elli

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Focus on one saint[edit]

The article currently discusses two saints, the male Elli, a disciple of Cadoc, and the female Ellyw or Elli, who may have been a daughter or granddaughter of Brychan. They are uncomfortable bedfellows who would be better described in separate articles.

catholicsaints.info says that Ellyw is an alternative name for Saint Almedha, also known as Saint Eluned, for whom we have a article that says she was a daughter of Brychan. So perhaps Ellyw should redirect to Saint Eluned. How reliable is catholicsaints.info?

Which saint were Llanelli and Llanelly named after? Jeffrey Thomas's article (self-published) favours the female saint for Llanelly. Baring-Gould and the Dictionary of Welsh Biography (DWB) are clear that Llanelli and Llanelly are named after the male saint. I favour using DWB as the main source and mentioning Thomas as a rival theory.

I propose making this article specifically about the male disciple of Cadoc, while mentioning that there was also a female saint called Ellyw or Elli, who may have been a daughter or granddaughter of Brychan, and might be Saint Eluned.

Comments? Verbcatcher (talk) 01:15, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose separate articles, First of all, @Verbcatcher: thanks for the GREAT work! I think because there are so few sources, and so little content, it doesn't really justify dividing it. A reader who is seeking information about the name St. Elli, Ellyw, whether male or female, can come to this article and quickly read all there is to offer. Having more than one articles, with hatnotes and links and having subsections in each article that discuss the other(s), would just make for more maintenance down the road. But again, thanks so much for your contributions! Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]