Talk:Sakharam Ganesh Pandit

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Did you know... that after Indian-American lawyer Sakharam Ganesh Pandit represented Bhagat Singh Thind in a 1923 U.S. Supreme Court case, the U.S. government attempted to revoke his citizenship?

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:30, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Pandit circa 1910, before his career as a lawyer

~~... that Indian-American lawyer Sakharam Ganesh Pandit (pictured) successfully used the equitable estoppel doctrine to prevent the United States from revoking his citizenship in 1927?~~ Source: Coulson, Doug (2017). Race, nation, and refuge : the rhetoric of race in Asian American citizenship cases. Albany: SUNY Press. pp. 76–82. ISBN 978-1-4384-6662-0. OCLC 962141092.
- ALT1: ... that Indian-American lawyer Sakharam Ganesh Pandit (pictured) represented Bhagat Singh Thind in the 1923 Supreme Court case United States v. Thind, after which the US government attempted to revoke his citizenship? Source: Chakravorty, Sanjoy; Kapur, Devesh; Singh, Nirvikar (2017). The other one percent : Indians in America. New York, NY: Oxford University Press. p. 15. ISBN 978-0-19-064874-9. OCLC 965470087.

Comment: I'm open to any suggested alternative hooks! I don't think I need a QPQ - still less than 5 DYKs.

Created by Ganesha811 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:04, 23 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]

article requires a more substantial lead section to summarise why the article is notable. Notability is established elsewhere in the article. → Lil-℧niquԐ1 - (Talk) - 16:04, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lil-unique1, thanks for the comment. I've expanded the lead to reflect Pandit's notability. Let me know if this is sufficient! Ganesha811 (talk) 16:13, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'd also like to note (thank you Yoninah for the guidance) that upon reflection I think the alt hook is more intriguing and should be preferred over the main hook. Ganesha811 (talk) 18:29, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy that this can go ahead → Lil-℧niquԐ1 - (Talk) - 17:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Lil-unique1: please provide a review that explicitly confirms that the five main DYK criteria have been met. An optional Reviewer's Template is located above the edit window. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:14, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ganesha811: your ALT1 hook, without the (pictured), is 203 characters long. Hooks must be less than 200 characters, and even shorter is better. How about piping the link to the case as follows:
ALT1a: ... that Indian-American lawyer Sakharam Ganesh Pandit (pictured) represented Bhagat Singh Thind in a 1923 US Supreme Court case, after which the US government attempted to revoke his citizenship? Yoninah (talk) 18:40, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah, that sounds good to me! ALT1a is definitely the best option. Ganesha811 (talk) 19:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A little tighter:
ALT1b: ... that after Indian-American lawyer Sakharam Ganesh Pandit (pictured) represented Bhagat Singh Thind in a 1923 US Supreme Court case, the US government attempted to revoke his citizenship? Yoninah (talk) 19:12, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Full review needed. Yoninah (talk) 19:11, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: → Lil-℧niquԐ1 - (Talk) - 20:24, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great source, needs verifying

This essay from the Homestead Museum focuses on Pandit and is a great source with many newspaper links, suggesting further sourcing. It also intriguingly includes a quote from William Jennings Bryan on Pandit which I am trying to verify. Ganesha811 (talk) 15:48, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tidbits that need sourcing

To avoid WP:OR, these shouldn't go in the article just yet, but here's two sources that mention Pandit; one that suggests his wife bred show dogs (wolfhounds and greyhounds) and another that lists him at a socialist forum giving a talk on the death of private property. Ganesha811 (talk) 16:41, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]