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Proposed merge of Salami tactics into Salami slicing
Both articles cover the same topic. Merging them into one article will make them more comprehensive. Separate articles not needed here as now considering the limited content. DTM (talk) 08:59, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Support but complete merge so that no content would be lost. Riddhidev BISWAS (talk) 10:40, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Don't merge The articles share a common word in the description, but are about fundamentally different things. One is an historic political tactic to alienate an opposition from itself, the other is about doing something (mostly theft) in small increments so that it goes unnoticed. James Kary (talk) 13:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- They seem to be different concepts indeed. Bever (talk) 02:40, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support, merge without losing content. Concept is same, with two dimensions of financial slicing and political slicing. This type of salami slicing has many dimensions, which is well explained in this article that both types are different dimensions/components/aspects of same concept of salami slicing. Section Salami_tactics#China's_salami_slice_strategy makes it clear with China's example how china uses both dimensions, along with many more dimensions simultaneously, to achieve the singular objective of global dominance. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 16:53, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose, per James Kary, Salami tactics is especially a specfic term for political actions regarding parties, and it is not even called as salami slicing.(KIENGIR (talk) 16:50, 9 November 2020 (UTC))
- Comment, Thomas C. Schelling wrote in his 1966 book 'Arms and Influence':[1][2]
Salami tactics, we can be sure, were invented by a child […] Tell a child not to go in the water and he’ll sit on the bank and submerge his bare feet; he is not yet ‘in’ the water. Acquiesce, and he’ll stand up; no more of him is in the water than before. Think it over, and he’ll start wading, not going any deeper; take a moment to decide whether this is different and he’ll go a little deeper, arguing that since he goes back and forth it all averages out. Pretty soon we are calling to him not to swim put of sight, wondering whatever happened to all our discipline.
- If you see, the Washington Post article uses salami tactics interchangeably with salami slicing. It defines salami tactics using the word 'slices' — "A state gradually grabs small slices until others realize that the entire sausage is gone." DTM (talk) 12:21, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support; similar concepts; if Salami tactics refers only to politics then it will fit very nicely into the currently-rather-bare Salami slicing#In politics. Klbrain (talk) 17:05, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose: the two articles cover difference concepts. Seany91 (talk) 10:25, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ Schelling, Thomas C. (2020-03-17). Arms and Influence. Yale University Press. p. 66. ISBN 978-0-300-25348-1.
- ^ Voeten, Erik (3 December 2013). "'Salami tactics' in the East China Sea". Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Retrieved 2020-11-23.
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- Support - These are merely different applications of the same concept. I suggest a rename to Salami slicing strategy or Salami slicing tactics (pick one and make the other a redirect), per the references, and for clarity. - jc37 19:10, 9 August 2021 (UTC)