Talk:Salep
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![]() | The contents of the Saloop page were merged into Salep on 7 June 2020. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
Etymology
[edit]I don't see how it can be argued that the Hebrew form is a cognate rather than a borrowing. If anyone can provide a source for this theory, please do, but for now I'm going to assume it is just the idea of a passing editor and remove it. --Iustinus 01:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The article originally had a wrong spelling for the contemporary Arabic word for salep, سحلب /saḥlab/ (salep is the anglicized form via the Turco-Persian pronunciation). The spelling was ثعلب (tha'lab) in the original article, which is, simply put, incorrect--I have two Arabic dictionaries at home, my folks speak Arabic, and I studied the language in college, and there is no indication that it is spelled any other way. Therefore, the ensuing etymology as it stands cannot be correct. It is possible, however, the there has been a phonetic shift. I lack the linguistic tools to really dig deeper here, so I hope someone can take this on and correct or clarify the etymology.85.178.25.183 21:58, 25 August 2007 (UTC)LH
- Hmm, well the OED says the following:
- [= F. salep, Sp. salép, Pg. salepo, a. Turkish sālep, a. Arabic thaعleb (pronounced in some parts saعleb), taken to be a shortening of khasyu 'th-thaعlab orchis (lit. ‘fox's testicles’; cf. the Eng. name ‘dogstones’.)]
- The OED is hardly infailable, but if it mentions the ḥasyu al-tha`lab possibility, then it must be at the very least a mainstream theory.
- It is a little curious, though, that they spell the word with a `ayn, when your dictionaries quite plainly specify a ḥā.
- --Iustinus 22:55, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Paracelsus
[edit]An anonymous user added a quote from Paracelsus, which personally I'm glad to have. But I'd rather know exactly where he wrote this. Can anyone help? --Iustinus 02:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
This was proposed by @CanerDemirci1993: but they didn't post a comment here.
- Merge - Saloop is just the British version of the Salep drink. The latter article discusses other versions of the drink, I think it would serve reasers best to have them all in one place. In the future, if the article gains enough in size, it could be split into drink and flour articles, but it's not there yet. --Nessie (talk) 21:49, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Merge - as per @Nessie.Resnjari (talk) 05:51, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
- I would disagree as the saloop article points out the relevance to UK historic consumption where as the Salep article is more oriented towards traditional consumption in areas formerly ottoman — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.72.114.105 (talk) 19:59, August 6, 2019 (UTC)
- Support merge on the grounds that the Saloop page is short and would benefit from the context of the broader article, which has a more international perspective. The content of Saloop would fit well as a separate section within History. Klbrain (talk) 23:21, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Support merge on the grounds that the Saloop page seriously should just be a minor separate section in History rather than a full article, and I may go ahead and try to do it unilaterally because it is unlike that official administration will do it otherwise. Aqua817 (talk) 00:36, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 07:24, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Persish
[edit]فارسی 82.173.194.96 (talk) 06:17, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
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